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A confusion on Runes Redone for people who have stuff

Wulfy·5/31/2017, 1:29:12 PM·4 votes·688 views

So, I understand the arguments in favor of changing out runes, and that's fine. This game has changed tremendously since I started in Season 1. I appreciate that the barrier to entry can feel quite massive when it comes to not just certain champions but in terms of developing the unique play style one might garner from trying out different rune sets and having 20 pages to dedicate to particular match ups and team comps.

However, that isn't my concern. The game will change around me, and as always, I will adapt. However, I am curious what Riot plans on doing for people in my situation.

To explain, some people have said "I have 10-20 rune pages, and I just hope Riot gives me back my IP at least cause I could buy so many more champions" or something similar. This has solution good precedent (see the removal of dodge runes) and probably works well for most players, particularly the ones at whom the changes are aimed (newer players). However, this would be an abysmal solution for players most "grievously" hurt by these changes: veterans.

At present, I have 36637 IP on my account. In addition, I have every champion, every rune, and 20 rune pages. I own several chromas I don't use simply because for a short window of time, one could buy chromas with IP. In fact, I have some runes whose names were not changed because they are special variants of a rune from an old Christmas celebration: (ie, Deadly Wreath).

So, let's suppose that Riot carries out the sensible plan of abolishing the current iteration of runes. What now? I have every rune in the game and 20 rune pages, which means I get...let's just guess 250,000 + IP refunded? That is the same as receiving nothing. I can outright buy the next 4 champions on the day they come out without play another game. IP doesn't do anything for me.

So, what other solution could exist? People bash getting free skins on the forums, free loot boxes, etc. So, what does the player base expect? What is Riots plan for handling individuals in my situation?

One possible solution is to grant an RP refund, based on the runes returned. If it were too small, like 1 RP per rune, it's insulting (wow, 250~ RP? GREAT! :/), but mayb 10 RP a run (or something?), which is essentially 20 dollars of value for my complete rune collection wouldn't be too insulting, and then maybe like half the RP value of each rune page(?).

In any case, the one concern I have that doesn't seem apparently addressed is refunds for people who have full collections and have literally no use for IP. I realize I got the "advantage" of having any runes I want, but it's not as though I didn't work for them by playing the game. Additionally, many runes are straight up useless except for hilarity (full bonus crit damage +46% damage on crits :D), so maybe this argument is less valid than proponents think.

In any case, this is just my thoughts and concern. Figured I would toss it into the conversation for what it's worth.

9 Comments

Jbels5/31/2017, 1:35:13 PM2 votes

I just hate the flow of information. I want all of it or none of it, and it drives me crazy when they tell you so much about what is being developed, and then they stop right when it gets interesting and move on. It feels like I'm being jerked around

Joseph Gladstone5/31/2017, 1:31:58 PM1 votes

I think it would be nice if Riot did something with the Hextech crafting system for giving back. I think they do take into consideration that giving back IP would not be enough because some people already have tons of IP, so I'm sure they'll make something work.

Funkin Dunkin5/31/2017, 1:58:38 PM1 votes

Wait, where's the thread on them taking away runes? I like my runes

mr Boombastic7875/31/2017, 6:13:41 PM1 votes

First of all I want to appologize for not reading your whole thread, I'm sorry, it is very disrespectful of me. I just wanted to as quickly as possible comment my thoughts and I WILL read the whole post after I've posted this, you have my word :D

Many people have used alot of IP on runes instead of champions and that have been great for them for a while now, but with the new runes it have backfired. But most people who own lots of runes often owns almost, if not every champion in the game. That means that their IP have not really had anything else to get used for. So for most players it have not hit to hard. Though I deffinently understand that it is a pain in the butt but we have to live with that.

am not one to talk about it though since I barely got hit by this. I am a farely new player since mid season 5, but I have payed to fill two runepages atleast so I am not un affected.

I think the change is for the better since runes are not that fun or interesting anyways, just extra numbers. Now I will keep on reading, it will be so awkward if this wasn't even your concern xD

Edit; I'm back, and now it's awkward as I wrought xD

Yes, I agree you should get something speciall, I asumed that you where another one who complains about losing their IP. I think it would be cool if riot would make in the collection part of the client a "legacy rune book" or "veteran rune collection" or something like that, and for every set of runes you have completed you get rewards like RP.

Just my opinion, I am glad you posted this :D