On Eve remake, for the love of all that is holy use smartcast.

Kai Guy··2 votes·340 views

I made an assumption that the entirety of the player base knew that using smart cast makes a huge difference on skillshot reliant champions. At a hommies house I learned that I was wrong. My first though was that its like bumper jumper all over again. My friends please go and set your options up to help you react faster in game as its only going to be your benefit to do this. Literally you will only ever become a better player if you can react faster.

Next if you wish to tell me using smart cast is mega hard, perhaps because you don't have the memory or instinct or stable connection or what ever yo feel is handicapping you (no sarcasm here there are legitimate things that can negatively impact your ability to make good plays not related to the game at all. I lived on an island for years and the ISP selection was rather limited.) If you cant make it to the necessary level required to consistently play precisely on smart cast you still have an option. Don't be ashamed and use an easy cheat. Enable the use smart cast with indicators and just get cozy with loading up a skill shot as you move into positions, I my self us it cuz I don't trust myself to flawlessly land ability's when I'm in an unlocked view.

To the likely flood of incoming downvotes from players who are using smart cast and struggling with her, please just collect yourself for a brief moment and think about how terrible it would feel to be playing her on the stock settings. I'm not going to try and debate eves good points or bad points in this thread and its really not about that. Its entirely on how much harder and god dam terrible the experience of playing eve is on stock. Hell its not even eve, there's hella champions who benefit greatly from smart cast.

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ModDaenrysTargaryen2 votes

i feel you bro, the second i started using smart cast i felt.... smart lol but seriously I am dumbfounded by the amount of level 30 players who i play with that still use non smartcast

Kai Guy2 votes

From halo 2 as a gamer I learned that control settings can have a positive impact on your ability to play the game. Bumper Jumper was huge for me getting better then my hommies, despite any and all claims they may have about whoring power weapons. yea moveing on. Adjusting to smart cast Its just like changing your sight in FPS games to give you an edge, or swapping out the crosshair display to one that gives you higher accuracy for your guns spread, (I'm about to exaggerate some here) Hell getting smart cast down is pretty much the same as flipping the difficulty switch on LOL from Extreme: most the games champions use skill shots and your doing it the slowest way possible to Normal: hey a majority of the games champs became smoother to play.

Niyume1 votes

I've been using normal cast for over three years now. I have zero issues playing any champ.

Normal cast gives you better precision and control (you know, so you can aim and lead a lot better, as opposed to just shooting a direction and hoping you hit), while quick cast is just easier to spam mindlessly.

ModDaenrysTargaryen1 votes

normal cast, button press and click quick cast with indicators, button press and release quick cast, button press.

i see what you are saying but how about you try quick cast with indicators, it takes 1 step out of your life so it probably says 25 to 100 ms of time

Kai Guy1 votes

I personally rate quick cast with indicators > reg quick cast. I might just have low APM but frankly I don't see a single difference between using quick cast and tapping a key or using Indicators enabled and tapping a key, and you can also use it to preload an ability which fires off not from press-release but just release. I could be super wrong and just have trash apm so I cant notice a difference.

Kai Guy1 votes

Ok so, do you think your reaction time is good or bad. Currently you on an account that does not show you have played for 3 years. If you want to keep your main on the down low then that's alright we can still debate the merit off of whats in game, and currently I feel its a no brainer to say that less actions taken = quicker times. If you can accomplish the same result in 1 action that previously took you 3 you become that much faster.

If your able to consistently make 3 actions in the time it takes most folks to do 1 then your exceptionally but your skill does not make other people not suffer. I don't struggle with eve's W Q or R and find her kit easy to gank with. That's not the experience others have. I feel comfortable saying due to the state of the boards and the large number of heads complaining about eve and that a majority of comments are of the same nature. I would love to go off on a rant about eve's strengths and how so many folks are misplaying her but I want this to remain about the importance of Quick cast not the in game balance of a champion. If you would like I'm entirely happy to open up a different thread (with you or anybody else really) to discuses eves kit and yall can just let me know in a reply.

Niyume2 votes

If you knew my main, you'd discredit everything I say. So just give me the benefit of the doubt. I have somewhere around 11k (11,000) games between my accounts.

I've been playing video games and various instruments since I was like 3 years old (and I'm almost 24 now). As a result, my fingers are pretty dexterous and nimble, and I can push buttons really quickly, type really fast (~200 GWPM), and all that. In the time it takes you to push that button and cast an ability, I can cast the same ability, but aim it better.

It's not really a sequence of actions since I do them all simultaneously anyway: Push button (while mouse is in the area) > Click the moment I do > Profit? But then, if I wanna have an ability ready, I can just hit the button once and bring up the telegraph, and have it ready.

Maybe I'm just weird, but I feel like I have better control with normal cast, since I have telegraphs and whatnot and know exactly what the hitboxes for everything look like. Makes it easier to play against champs too.

And to your reaction time question? I think I have better reaction times than most people that play this game, even with normalcast. I just have issues playing as a team and trusting my teammates, which would explain my rank. ^^


As far as Eve goes... I think she's a little bit broken, not weak at all. I don't have any issues playing her (my games on this account with her are post-rework), and I can carry pretty well. She can't fight tanks that well, and she was never designed to be a teamfight champ, but that's not really an issue, she's just designed to fight isolated targets and pick people off.

Her ganks require a bit of patience (gotta wait for the right time to go in since you're squishy and your CC isn't the most reliable), but they're fairly easy to pull off, especially if you communicate with your team and have them bait for you and whatnot.

Kai Guy1 votes

Ok, so why then would a player like myself who can not compete with a player like you who can take 3 actions to my 1 with higher accuracy want to then go and attempt to take an additional 2 actions when I'm already behind you in hand speed, you should be able to make 9 actions to my 3. How does that help me or people like me win games?

Accuracy with indicators is the same as regular cast but its dual usages results in a speed that to some one with my typeing speed is as rapid if I where to be playing with smart cast. Currently I get the best of both worlds in aiming assistance to imput to action that I mechanically am familiarly with use. All of it comes from using a menu option available to all players from a level 1 account.

The only argument I can see is accuracy but that's solved by using range indicators and it also requires less hand speed as its only 2 steps, a long key press and a mouse movement to aim, release to fire, your movement commands don't interfere with your cast so at not point do you need to make additional movements to reactivate your range indicators. So you get more spell shot indicators and mobility with more uptime, all of which should help accuracy. (channeled abilitys like vis Q and xeraths do behave differently but its not hard to adapt to.)

Basic quick cast allows you to make it into steps , aim mouse into area, push button. Boom spell launched. For accuracy enable range indicators and your able to just press a key then aim and fire it on release. You can start aiming faster and also control your champions movement during this time a lot smoother because your range indicator will never get turned off by movement commands. Look at how it functions, its a only a benefit to learn to play using it and the only disadvantage is the investment of time to relarn your champion pool to make it second nature.

Note that you have been a gamer from ages 3, you got trained for dexterity for instruments. From your comments about pushing keys really quickly as well as typing really fast its fair to assume you don't consider yourself to have slower hands. So then this post then does not really apply to you and that's fine but I want to you pretend your a player who chronically finds them self wishing they cast a clutch ability or combed faster. If you just had a fraction of a second more time you would have had the play. the more often you feel this way the more games it happens in, then the higher you should place importance into higher efficiency and the more benefit you will get from reducing your required hand motions.

I'm still trying to avoid specifically talking about eve, I don't want to go off on a wall of pros and cons. I really want this thread to be exclusively about casting set up. If your mains above me, your in the upper top 10% of players why do you think advice that helps folks improve something you clearly don't need help with loses its value, especially when there's players who will benefit from it. Alternatively if I'm above you what do you feel I am doing well that would give me the advantage despite being behind you in handspeed which directly affects my ability in gameplay negative.

And here my friend is the best part, literally any one who reads this can easily test it for them self. Pick a champion that uses a lot of skillshots, go into training mode, screw around for some time and test all 3 modes. Any one can do this to see for them self if they will benefit or not. You can disagree that I have a slow handspeed, fine, but I'm here telling you that I am able to get more actions executed in game by swapping to quick cast then I could by using the stock option, that's not an hypothesis or a theory its from my literal experience with myself playing this game.

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