I had a game a while back, I was brand mid and we had a support alistar. I constantly ganked bot lane and got myself and the adc kills, yet bot was still doing terribly and I didnt know why so I watched a few fights play out in bot lane
Alistar, even though they made it super easy now, absolutely could not WQ combo, and would walk up to an enemy champion, ult, auto a single time, then w the enemy away and run away himself, and he would do this consistantly on his ults cooldown.
He was also actively taking cs with his Q and never built any support items, let alone sightstone.
This was in a ranked game so I checked his rank afterwards expecting to see bronze4 or unranked or something.
HE WAS GOLD 5. HOW IS THIS ACCEPTABLE RITO?!
We lost that game.