When will we admit there's something wrong with Ezreal?

Penta Penguin··9 votes·3,291 views

Every time something comes out, be it an item or rune or whatever, and Ezreal immediately starts abusing it, why does everything else except Ezreal have to change?

Spirit of the Elder Lizard, Luden's, tear of the goddess, Iceborne Gauntlet, Kleptomancy, and whatever else i can't remember right now.

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KFCeytron7 votes

"Let's make a spell that also applies on-hit effects." "Okay." "Also give it long range and negligible cost/CD." "Okay." "Why is everything broken?"

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/475/Screen_Shot_2018-10-25_at_11.02.15_AM.png

Stars Shaper3 votes

And since that turned out to be problematic, lets give him a spell that hits champions and turrets and make his Q deal a shizzle-ton of damage too.

Infernape5 votes

Didn't Ezreal also ruin Runeglaive for junglers lol

Salron4 votes

No he literally did not Not sure why people spread this lie

Iota Theta3 votes

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No he literally did not Not sure why people spread this lie

He may not have been the sole contributor, but he was a factor, considering he could get more value out of the enchantment in midlane than AP junglers could.

Salron5 votes

There was 1 change made to it after 1 patch of Ezreal abusing it It was the removal of the spellblade effect to proc spell-effects such as Ludens That was the only change Ezreal caused to it and it affected no one but him, and he stopped using it after this change Spellblades aren't even SUPPOSED to proc spell-effects

As for why it was eventually removed later? That was because actual AP jungles like Fiddle and Karthus got ZERO use out of Runeglaive, because the spellblade effect was horrible for them, while other ap junglers like Elise and Nidalee oversynergized with it at the time. Thus we got Runic Echoes to be a better all-encompassing ap jungle items as a replacement

Ezreal never "ruined" Runeglaive for anyone but himself

KlydeFrog1 votes

Bro your dumb news flash once runes reformed came out secret ez buff let you proc ludens and still does. So me I never built 2 tears not efficient. Manamune ludens iceborn or triforce it doesn't matter so much and static and cdr boots more efficient. Build still works

Iota Theta1 votes

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There was 1 change made to it after 1 patch of Ezreal abusing it It was the removal of the spellblade effect to proc spell-effects such as Ludens That was the only change Ezreal caused to it and it affected no one but him, and he stopped using it after this change Spellblades aren't even SUPPOSED to proc spell-effects

As for why it was eventually removed later? That was because actual AP jungles like Fiddle and Karthus got ZERO use out of Runeglaive, because the spellblade effect was horrible for them, while other ap junglers like Elise and Nidalee oversynergized with it at the time. Thus we got Runic Echoes to be a better all-encompassing ap jungle items as a replacement

Ezreal never "ruined" Runeglaive for anyone but himself

It was two-fold:

This item was removed because not all AP junglers could actually use it effectively, since not all of them have synergy with Spellblade, or with auto-attacking to begin with. In addition, this item was known to cause serious balance issues, especially back when it used to convert the base auto attack into magic damage, allowing this item to be abused by solo laners that had synergy with Spellblade items.

https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Runeglaive

The only champs that got real use out of it were champs like Ezreal, namely Ezreal, while the junglers could not use it very well if they never had a reason to build a Spellblade. The AP junglers that used Lich Bane could've made use with it, but mid-Ezreal was definitely the most notable solo lane user of it, because of his Q.

First, they removed the interaction it had with Luden's in 5.13, which was less Ezreal himself and more a bug interaction with how things were coded. They then hit it again in 5.14, when they took away the physical to magic damage conversion and made it only an AoE against monsters, stating:

First, while we're not directly opposed to laners picking up jungle items, we still need to see these items primarily used in the jungle so we can have a real understanding if they're accomplishing their intended goals.

Ezreal was a factor in Runeglaive's issues, because AP Ezreal was able to use it up until 5.14, and I could've sworn he made use of it even after at times for taking raptors.

OtterlyLost5 votes

Don't forget him abusing the hell out of Runeglaive.

But yeah, they never make changes to the champion even if he's the only one abusing something.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Isn't he one if not THE most popular champion in china for three years now?

OtterlyLost1 votes

Korea. Korea has always loved and had a hard on for Ezreal. Even when he was garbage and being played as a cheese pick, aggressive early game jungler. They likely were the ones to start that even.

KlydeFrog1 votes

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OtterlyLost1 votes

IDK what the hell you're talking about. I didn't mention any of that. Just that he used to abuse Runeglaive, the AP jungle item, midlane when it existed.

KlydeFrog2 votes

......... so let me speak slower then. after ruinglaive they nerfed ez to where his q would no longer proc it then once runes reforged came out they made a secret buff to ez which allowed his q to proc it again . not sure how much easier i need to explain

GigglesO4 votes

All he needs is for q to not have on hit effects. It’s a fucking spell not an auto attack.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

This change would not just ruin his whole identity, which is centered on his Q and its synergy with on-hit effects, but would also effectively remove Ezreal from the game.

VoraciousX3 votes

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This change would not just ruin his whole identity, which is centered on his Q and its synergy with on-hit effects, but would also effectively remove Ezreal from the game.

You're wrong, because removing this effect would allow them to actually buff it's damage, which honestly isn't that amazing without on-hits. Ezreal breaks every item that comes out with an on-hit(When he wasn't that good they even brought him jungle abusing lethality). They could buff him in other ways after removing the on-hits on his Q. While his Q having on-hits does give him a unique identity, it is also the entire reason all of these items eventually get nerfed, and synergies are removed, thus causing problems for other champions who aren't busted out of their mind with them. Ezreal doesn't NEED on-hits to survive(assuming he's buffed, but even then, I've one shot people just with lich bane as my only on-hit before, so it's not like he needs THAT much help), it's just an identity Riot will never take away no matter how many problems it's caused since Ezreal has existed.

If they wanted to keep his on-hits, they could do something more interesting and less problematic as well, like for example, making his W proc any on-hits from any ability he casts. Say he has iceborn Gauntlet, then W's an enemy champion, and then Q's them, the on-hit would work, but if he just Q'd the enemy, it wouldn't. If he used E instead of Q on the marked target, still would work, if he used E normally, wouldn't. Same for ult. This would make it where he wouldn't break on-hits near as much as he currently does, and would require more skill in actually proccing them. Items would be safe from him that way.

GigglesO1 votes

They could always change on hit to on attack and make it so things like iceborn gauntlet couldn’t be used with his Q. That’s how they balanced Xin Xaos knockup its “on attack”

KlydeFrog1 votes

You do realize kass q does the same thing but its stronger?

MessyStuff1 votes

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You do realize kass q does the same thing but its stronger?

Kass actually has other damage in his kit than his q, ez doesn't. His w depends on his q and his e is extremely unreliable. Auto attacks are useless on ez and don't say that his ult does enough damage to get rid of that. You would destroy his synergy with everything and destroy him. He would have like a 20% winrate at that point.

KlydeFrog1 votes

Kass w not q lol you know what I meant. Kass ult doesn't really damage his e needs stacks to do and his q isnt that damaging .point being other people can do it and I dont see you crying about them

The thigh guy2 votes

Except that’s litteraly all he had when he “broke” those items.

His w was worthless his e was used more for safety and his ult is about as impactful as jinx’s.

Créam2 votes

Why is item 3025 Still ranged?

Andrex25002 votes

This.

Its All Skillzz1 votes

Ad ezreal is lame, klepto is lame, frost fist is lame. make fist melee only, remove klepto from the game and give Ez W aoe again. https://youtu.be/05TykhA6jJM is how ezreal should be built.

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