Shyvana's ultimate does not drag enemies back most of the time

Profirix·Feb 16, 2015·15 votes·1,831 views

Riot,

Can we get someone to look at Shyvana's ultimate hit box or drag range? Many many times when I have ulted someone to the maximum range, they may get dragged about 3/4 of the way and then suddenly stop, sending me past them and effectively ruining an attempted engage. Other times champions we outright ignore the knockback and I will go flying right on over them. This has been a problem for a while but recently has cost me a couple team fights and I think it is high time we get a fix.

Thanks

9 Comments

Vicarious117Feb 16, 20156 votes

Yeah it's working like it's supposed to though, when you hit them it's a slight push but it's always been capped, and where you hit them in your jump also matters since it's a leap. Like if you leap at them and they end up under you at the exact middle of your leap you'll actually be flying over them, which is why you want to ult almost on top of them, like you would with Hecarim's ultimate really.

That being said, I would love it if they buffed her to change this to a full push back ult, she would most likely return to the meta if she had this, I mean Gnar has one better so why not Shyvanna? And as a bonus if Shyv entered back into the meta Trundle would probably follow her in and we'd find more variety back in the jungle and top lane.

1st HanarSpectreFeb 16, 20155 votes

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Yeah it's working like it's supposed to though, when you hit them it's a slight push but it's always been capped, and where you hit them in your jump also matters since it's a leap. Like if you leap at them and they end up under you at the exact middle of your leap you'll actually be flying over them, which is why you want to ult almost on top of them, like you would with Hecarim's ultimate really.

That being said, I would love it if they buffed her to change this to a full push back ult, she would most likely return to the meta if she had this, I mean Gnar has one better so why not Shyvanna? And as a bonus if Shyv entered back into the meta Trundle would probably follow her in and we'd find more variety back in the jungle and top lane.

I never understood why her ult didn't drag people she catches in it all the way to her landing spot. I realize that at a few point in her short LoL life she was considered OP, it still never made sense that you sould barely nudge people when you ult. and if used at the max range, land outside of autoattack range of your target.

Vicarious117Feb 16, 20151 votes

Well as you said she was OP a couple times in the past couple seasons, so buffing her ult to a full push back would have only made the issue worse and they'd have to nerf something else. Since in the past couple metas she could have essentially stuck to any target at all for as long as she needed if she could push them to exactly where she was going to land.

Now however with the meta favoring dash heavy and high speed champions I don't think it would be OP at all since it would actually be dangerous for her to push all these kiting champions back into one spot or even miss due to the plethora of dashes in the meta right now.

But ofc that requires more people to want to bring Shyvanna back in, and frankly there aren't all that many people who want to play her as much anymore.

Auz the RipperFeb 16, 20151 votes

You also have to consider wombos like Annie and Amumu, pushing all the champions the one spot would almost be too synergetic with such champions

RetillinFeb 16, 20153 votes

Like a Gnar ult?

Erotic FantasiesFeb 17, 20151 votes

I'd like them to bring back her armor shred

ProfirixFeb 17, 20151 votes

To be completely honest, this Lee, Vi, Jarvan meta MUST be addressed before any jungle diversity can be promoted. It has gotten to the point now where if I do not pick one of them while jungling and the enemy team does, they will likely win the game. This meta promotes play-making junglers who have quick resets, escape/engage tools, and have very high base damage. It really bothers me that Riot refuses to address this problem. You can't say that you want to promote diversity and then wholly embrace this current meta. Something needs to change!

SuppaSNAFUFeb 17, 20151 votes

I had the same problem. Ran past a Viktor, ulted him, and it completely missed him! Lately I have just been giving up on that aspect and just ulting so I can land on top of enemies.

PhillakiedFeb 17, 20151 votes

Others might deem this as a bit on the overpowered side, but I feel like there should be some sort of reward for either landing on a champ or pushing a champ. Like either its a stun when Shyvana lands on them (a crippling effect, come on she's a dragon!) or a greater push back (from her descend speed) then just some nudge. Reward the players who use the ultimate in a smart way I guess. Like I mean look at the new dragon! When you start to attack it, tell me the push back from the wings feel intimidating.