Duskblade + Zombie is TOXIC PLAY for us Supports

NekoniClaws·12/11/2017, 11:11:59 AM·36 votes·1,503 views

item 3147 Listen, we've talked about this, frontloaded damage, too cheap, easy to proc, yadda yadda.

Let's talk about a new, hugely toxic aspect of this ever loved item.

Its synergy with the ZOMBIE WARD rune.

I went two games in a row vs 2 duskblades, and I lost over 25 wards each game to those things. 30 gold per ward, (60 if another last hits), x 25. That is a LOT of gold I'm feeding to the enemy carries. About 3 kills.

Duskblade is bad enough alone- Alas, smart duskblade users are now taking the zombie wards rune- I just warded the entire map for the enemy team! And it's very difficult to clear those without getting picked off myself. (I couldn't manage it safely on Bard.)

This is really, really unhealthy gameplay. I'm literally warding less because it's used against me.

21 Comments

Heckin Support12/11/2017, 8:22:22 PM11 votes

I never understood why they gave true sight to duskblade.

xPhantomDancerX12/11/2017, 11:46:08 AM9 votes

But isn't it the job of supports to feed the enemy carries?

Azadethe12/11/2017, 5:46:03 PM8 votes

Personally I hate this combo as Evelynn. Lee with Duskblade not only places his own wards, but turns mine against me, and there's not a thing I can do about it, and in good player play, they also add ~ 12 pink wards in my own jungle so I'm literally restricted from playing. I can only kill so many, and while I'm killing them, they're setting up to kill me or a lane far far away from me.

Also really sucks when paired with a Kha Zix, because he can particularly isolate well and out ward/punish when he controls your jungle's warding.

And these aren't skill choices. They're just meta choices.

Duskblade + Tracker's + Sweep = gg warding.

Part of the reason as support I don't particularly care to go sightstone.... because it just feeds duskblades. Better to know your pathing and stay in lanes.

DontTouchMyBall12/11/2017, 11:55:49 PM6 votes

The item itself is a mistake, A champ enters a bush and knows if he bening seen or not which means that he know if it is warded,

But hey we're getting nerfs! Nerfs to item 3114 and its finals items!

What 2 lethality nerf? It's not a nerf, it is a reversion of a buff disguised as nerf.

Meanwhile Mages got no Armor runes. I guess I'll be spectating more games instead of actually playing

Thiadel12/12/2017, 2:14:45 AM4 votes

I can't agree more. The true sight on Duskblade needs to be taken out of the game completely. If they want to check for wards, get a fucking pink ward or an oracle's like every other champion in the game that isn't an AD assassin.

Julius Evola12/11/2017, 3:44:07 PM2 votes

This is not a serious post.

Barkley12/12/2017, 7:40:25 AM2 votes

Upvoted this post for the nifty idea on a better way to use my duskblade Jarvan to get more freelo.

TYVM.

Pierce The Veal12/12/2017, 2:57:25 PM1 votes

Meanwhile I'm here with my 60-60% cdr farsight ward spam.

On occasion I get the zombie rune and oracles instead. But with how lazy I am I'm not in an elo where the enemy team wards enough for it to be useful to me smh.

Don't mind me go on complaining about 90s cd passive on duskblade that you can use a few times the entire game.

Rexxiee12/12/2017, 3:01:37 PM1 votes

And the whole support itemization is toxic for the rest of the game, so many broken items that completely invalidate any kind of aggression towards his/her team mates.

Dorans Pants12/12/2017, 3:50:32 PM1 votes

ever since this item came out i asked myself: "Why are assassin getting a passive that supports would kill for?" i get it´s so they can better flank but fuck them. My sweeper is on a 60sec cd while my assassin buddy walks through the jungle and does my job 10x better.

Liveey12/12/2017, 6:57:24 PM1 votes

Tbh the zombie rune I believe jungle taking them was the optimal choice.