Agreed. I can lock them down, but I'm not going under their tower to do it. Additionally, understand when we get level 2. It's after the first three melees on the second wave. Nothing more tilting than seeing that last melee minion sitting there with like 5 Hp but your ADC is too busy poking the enemy carry to hit it. Just get level 2 and let me all in instead of scaring them away from the wave. Most supports get a CC ability level 2, so help us. I've got plenty of first bloods with the level 2 as Brand, Zyra, Vel'koz, Nami, Thresh, Leona, Nautilus, Alistar, and countless others. But that's only because they weren't under their tower to begin with.
Additionally, stop hard pushing the wave period. You don't need to. I don't care if we just killed them or if they killed us, stop pushing. Here's the things that generally happen:
You just died, I froze it at your tower with 200 hp to spare, don't immediately use your waveclear on the wave. Nothing more frustrating than seeing a Caitlyn or Lucian Q through a wave that should perfectly freeze only to have them immediately die moments later because the wave is now under the enemies tower and I'm still walking back to lane. Instead just CS it at tower, they are unlikely to dive you and this lets you get farm. It also allows our jungler to gank possibly.
I died. Literally the same thing as above. There will be minions at your tower and they are unlikely to dive you, just get the CS the best you can.
We both died, the lane reset. Don't push. We might be able to fight them but we need to look for the right opportunity. And having them be in a longer lane puts them in more danger from ganks in general and from us in the case I land some CC.
We got a kill and returned to lane with an item advantage. Don't push. Yeah, we can poke them under tower, but we can also die to ganks. Instead, let it push towars us so that they are in more danger. Depending on the champions we have, I might be able to poke them out till they can't CS safely any more, in which case, you just last hit, I stand up and zone. If I'm an all in champion, I'll stand farther up so they are threatened for the CS they get, which might cause them to miss some. Now they get no money and you don't have to poke and CS at the same time. It hurts them and benefits us. Obviously this only works if you can hold a freeze and CS well, but even denying them a wave or two will do a lot in the long run.
