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Is it junglers job to win every lane for them?

Wolf Queen··2 votes·689 views

Like EVERY single time my lane loses im blamed for it. I can counter gank the entire game where ever the jungler is and succeed. I can camp a lane and get them super fed and crush the other lane. I can control dragon/baron etc. But i cant do it all at once. I cant b e at top and bottom at the same time. If i were to camp bot cause they cant win 2v2 then the other jungler has 2 lanes to freely gank without any counter gank. I feel its my job to do what i feel is in the best interest. I can keep up with the enemy jungler but i cant camp a single losing lane when the jungler hasnt even gone to that lane and is ganking other lanes. Do i leave mid and top to 1v2? Like i dont know. Am i doing it wrong? Is the jungler supposed to win every single lane every single game? I feel like my teams are expecting me to solo win the game, like im raged at whenever any lane loses. I just dont get how im supposed to win every single lane, and control the enemy jungler, and control objectives, all while trying to farm myself. Not every gank results in a kill, so thats time i could use to farm. I could camp all 3 lanes, but id be behind in levels and gold. So am i doing something wrong?

4 Comments

Red Wreckage2 votes

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like im raged at whenever any lane loses.

I don't know your elo, but where I'm(S5), this is a very strong indicator that I'm going to lose this match cause this no skill laner is very much like to go on a tilt and will not try to come back one bit and be like, "gg, I'm done, noob jg no ganks, i just troll" you just do your thing, hoping your teammates do their. I have no idea what more can one do :S

Talandirath2 votes

Ok, so I was diamond on EUW last season, currently gold one after inactivity and learning the new meta.

An exceptional jungler will control vision and even if they're top side, should still make the enemy bot lane worry about a gank, how? Fog of war, lane pressure, vision control. When you pressure lanes while still farming your camps, keeping off the map till you gank, puts people in a defensive play pattern. Think of laning as mid vs a shaco, you just don't push up till you can get vision.

That being said, If one lane loses so bad it spills onto the others (as most cases are now) then all you can do is provide vision and protection for the people you believe can carry.

I've had games where my team are down 9 kills, 60 cs, no map pressure and want to surrender. Till they realise I'm an 11-0 200 cs azir at 25 minutes (I farm all lanes in solo queue when I can) and all of a sudden my team group around me, taking any poke or threat from me, allowing me to easily carry. I'm not saying this to pad my ego (God I've had bad games too) but they're never lost till that nexus falls or you surrender. You just need to start playing the map and looking at the strongest mechanically and game knowledge players on you team and protect them.

Or just pick master Yi and right click on their fed carries and watch the $ roll in because riot have clearly removed their balance department from existence to save money

Narvuntien2 votes

Good reply ^.

Jungler can have a global presence when you are on your game.

Your job is to control the map objectives that includes the towers, you don't have to win their lane for them but if the enemy is pushing onto your tower you need to protect it. To win you are also going to have to trying to make proactive plays to try and take out the enemy towers. In a way you are in control of the marco game.

I get rather annoyed when people start pinging or complaining for help before I have even finished my first clear, guys guys can't you wait until I am level 4 and have my ganking ability before you start feeding and whining, I am just not ready yet. So put their whining out of your mind and decide if you are doing enough or if they do in fact need some help.

R31W1NG1 votes

Hmm, I've noticed one very significant problem in your strategy. You have forgotten the tax. If you force a B, then tax. If you blow any of their summoner's, then tax. If you get them a kill, then tax. If you apply actual pressure and do none of the above, then tax 1, and only 1 minion. If you show up and they just wait in experience range at their tower for you to have to leave, just leave and don't tax because you have failed(preferably asap). Additionally, constantly ask what you can do to win, what you need to do to win, and determine if you need to last to late game or not and chose which of your laners are worthwhile. If you can untilt someone cool, but a lost cause is a lost cause. Your job is to make plays, and counter plays. It is not to go die in their fed lane and give the enemy a kill which actually has value. If plays can't be made in their lane they, not you, need to make the lane playable.

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