We need an efficient 20% crit item.

The thigh guy·Jun 3, 2018·1 votes·1,397 views

Okay, so crit got demolished if your name isnt yasuo. But we have to throw more gold into a second crit item which shoots us into 120% crit, which is just wasted gold.

you took our two crit items that were good for rounding into 100% critical strike. (ie and essence reaver)

Crit is slow enough as is now, why make us waste even more of that gold we have to scrape up with all the assassins roaming around now?

not to mention our new item, stormraiser, is used more by the damn assassins than us because its just not good enough to help us.

GG jinx, sivir, ashe.

6 Comments

BLACK REALM GODJun 3, 20183 votes

honestly i think critical % chance should just be removed from the item shop entirely.

i dont mind it being a rune. i dont mind it being part of a champion kits. but it shouldnt be in the item shop.

The thigh guyJun 3, 20181 votes

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honestly i think critical % chance should just be removed from the item shop entirely.

i dont mind it being a rune. i dont mind it being part of a champion kits. but it shouldnt be in the item shop.

So you want the adc role to just be gone? crit only works because they are ranged champions who deal a lot of damage and manage to stay safe.

Theres a reason champions like zed, talon and even darius dont build it, its not good on anything that isnt range.

Not to mention the number of champions that would kill. kalista, jinx, sivir, ashe, xayah, yasuo ( specifically him but im okay with him being killed), hell even kindred and jhin would be fucked.

crit already took a huge hit, and its being seen. in eu there are 9 less challenger adc mains now and it hasen't even been a week yet.

BLACK REALM GODJun 3, 20184 votes

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So you want the adc role to just be gone?

logical fallacy.

crit only works because they are ranged champions who deal a lot of damage and manage to stay safe.

logical fallacy again.

Theres a reason champions like zed, talon and even darius dont build it, its not good on anything that isnt range.

logical fallacy a third time.

Not to mention the number of champions that would kill. kalista, jinx, sivir, ashe, xayah, yasuo ( specifically him but im okay with him being killed), hell even kindred and jhin would be fucked.

logical fallacy a fourth time

crit already took a huge hit, and its being seen. in eu there are 9 less challenger adc mains now and it hasen't even been a week yet.

logical fallacy a 5th time.

congratulations on demonstrating a poor argument.

crit does NOT define the "adc" role. it supplements it with rng rewards which are easier to proc on marksmen that have higher attacks per second and alternatively have lower damage per attack.
Wrong. crit works because of their attack speed. in fact critical chance ONLY works because of their attack speed. their range has nothing to do with it. critical works just fine on champions with less than 200 range. if it didnt assassins and fighters alike never would have been building it.
they have built it in the past. mainly for the ability to prevent damage though phantom dancer and the wave clear that comes from static shiv. once you have that much critical chance you might as well grab infinity edge for the 250% damage increase. however since IE was changed now they get true damage. at level 18 if a champion isnt a tank and isnt buying HP items or defense items you can deal half their HP in true damage with 1 critical as rengar using IE. without ANY items rengar can deal 292.8 damage with a single Q that isnt empowered. if you add in IE and a critical you can deal 15% of 600 as true damage. thats 90 true damage by the way. without adding the damage that you get from passives and from IE itself with no cooldown limitations. so... yeah this is completely wrong.
removing critical chance would actually make these champions stronger by allowing their RNG or damage to be on their own terms and not based on a global item that may or may not be abused. you'd be putting damage back into their kits. thereby making them stronger and more balanced overall. sorry, but you're wrong here. even yasuo who has a kit that's designed around critical could easily be swapped over to granting him critical chance in his kit based on level or on his Q's level or even his R's level. A passive rework is not out of the question for ashe since she simply doesnt even use critical for the purpose it's intended and instead has a critcal chance frozen mallet passive. xayah has it in her kit as a bonus damage ratio to encourage you to buy the old essence reaver or some of the items that were reworked for not serving the purpose intended. this was during the time when lethality and penetration items were all the rage when marksmen werent supposed to be building those items. sivir is no different from miss fortune. her W grants her criticals for every subsequent basic attack if her first W is a critical. Miss fortune grants criticals for her Q if the first shot kills before ricocheting. all you'd have to do to give sivir her power back is require her W to kill in order to critical for the next bounce. just like with jhins Q. not only would this give her a huge power spike, it'd introduce a massive skill spike as well that's relative to fiddlesticks crow.
critical did not take a huge hit. criticals and critical chance was simplified and diversified. people just havent adjusted yet to the concept of not having to buy critical chance. you dont stack critical chance anymore. now you get 1 or 2 and buy another item. if you stack critical chance your kit had better have some reason for doing so because if you're running around at 100% critical chance, but only dealing 80 damage you've wasted your gold.

an item that makes your attack auto crit by not attacking rapidly
an item that makes your criticals deal true damage (for champs with built in critical)
an item that allows you to duel with potential for lucky trades
an item for multi target damage wave clear and poking
an item for single target poking and added damage
an item for wave clear and multi target on hit benefits

Critmaster GarenJun 3, 20182 votes

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crit only works because they are ranged champions

Yasuo Tryndamere MasterYi Gangplank Garen

crit works on melee champions when their abilities scale with crit, or theyre simply designed around it.

zed and talon arent buying crit, because they scale better with flat ad. plus, there were a couple of assassin builds with the pre rework infinity edge on assassins like Rengar and Shaco