hahaaa epic tank rework

Big Lincoln··3 votes·416 views

sejuani is a bruiser, maokai is an AP support and zac is a troll pick

wew lad what a tank update, 2/3 aren't even tanks anymore lel

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Jbels1 votes

Define tank. Who am I kidding, it's not like Riot even knows what it means, why would any of us know?

Big Lincoln1 votes

tank - free gold for enemy team

Ralanr3 votes

"We wanted to give tanks a late game waveclear item when waveclearing is more of a luxury than a guarantee for tanks in the late game. We see nothing wrong with this."

-Riot.

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

tank - takes damage and still lives

fighter - heals through damage by on-hit basic attacks

mage - Uses skills that are based on AP scaling for mostly AOE damage

assassin - uses skills that are based on eliminating a single target quickly

marksman - uses high damage ranged basic attacks

support - uses skills that are meant for assisting an ally.

Jbels1 votes

[{quoted}](name=BLACK REALM GOD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=chFp2M32,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2017-05-11T16:32:08.062+0000)

tank - takes damage and still lives

fighter - heals through damage by on-hit basic attacks

mage - Uses skills that are based on AP scaling for mostly AOE damage

assassin - uses skills that are based on eliminating a single target quickly

marksman - uses high damage ranged basic attacks

support - uses skills that are meant for assisting an ally.

One of these things isn't doing what they should be. Hint, it's the first one

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

well the problem is that tanks arent really a good class to have in a moba. tanks after all come from mmorpgs and rpgs where the goal is for the player to win usually. at least i think that's where they originated. probably from tabletop rpgs first. anyway the problem is that tanks in mobas have to die sometime and finding the balance of how much damage they're doing vs how long they live vs how annoying they get is no small feat since they're literally the same thing as an assassin or fighter that has melee attacks with just different base stats. they're trying to fix it with the item shop and the mastery tree when they should instead make the items general purpose, the masteries roles specific, and then give tank champions skills stats and abilities that fulfill the desire of a tank and then continue to tweak from there and not from the item shop or mastery tree.

organizing the item shop and the masteries to be EXACTLY as they are planned would go a long way. however due to riots opinion on staleness in video games they've constantly been changing everything even the core game mechanics like jungle and game time to keep it feeling fresh.

so the question is do players want the game to become stale and old or is riot taking the right approach by tweaking everything periodically for the chaotic effect to create fun and memorable moments?

me personally i've mentioned this before, but with just the basic stats that are in the game there are quite a few hundred item options from just combining 2 of the stats. even more so with 3 or a varied ranking system. they could and should slowly add in a new item every couple of patches and with the way the mastery system is set up currently there could be 30 keystones with a new keystone added every few months. the champion roster is pretty much maxed out unless riot plans to have 300 champions. i think it would just be better to rework the mages and fighters to slide them into the other ranks slowly. i cant remember the number i came up with of how many legitimately different combinations of champions and strategies there were, but it's only like 30 or something of each class.

EmperorPengu1 votes

Don't hate on my zac:(

Bunnymap1 votes

We can always count on you to hate on every rework that comes out

Big Lincoln1 votes

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Darius Katarina Graves MissFortune Vladimir were all good reworks and I've said as much plenty of times

not my fault if most of the rest are bad

Sohleks1 votes

While not wrong more potential for mixed roles or off builds is good. Tweaks can get them where they need to be.

True dat their off role is tank now :)

PermabannedGaren1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=chFp2M32,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-05-11T16:04:25.249+0000)

sejuani is a bruiser, maokai is an AP support and zac is a troll pick

wew lad what a tank update, 2/3 aren't even tanks anymore lel

Do you have a source for Sejuani being a bruiser my son?

I wouldn't put much stock into Zac currently being weak dogshit at the moment. Aatrox was weak dog shit on his rework's release as well, but once Rito figured out the right numbers he's been decent.

Big Lincoln1 votes

ur not my dade

TEKadeo1 votes

Dude is typically trolling but just simple thought process and examining her kit leads you to see that TriForce and Hydra are both amazing items on her. Koreans are doing it with Shen, but Sej with these items (and typically Cinderhulk) will outduel almost anyone.

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