Imagine an Enchanter Support like this...

iLBGAMing·Dec 7, 2017·3 votes·610 views

That doesn't:

Provide heals .

Provide shields

That does:

Provide damage (on-hit damage, ability damage, next basic attack?) .

Provide other offensive tools .

Allow to use an ability twise (resetting the cooldown of non-ultimate abilities) .

Marking enemies with abilities that make your allies deal bonus damage to that target/s for x duration .

Abilities that are able to potentially enemies vision of your ally

This would be an interesting direction for a enchanter support that isn't just an afk healer/shield support, and I was just going through ideas of how it would be possible to make this role in general more interesting and more skillful perhaps.

19 Comments

gabetheguyDec 7, 20173 votes

yes. more damage is exactly what this game needs.

iLBGAMingDec 7, 20171 votes

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yes. more damage is exactly what this game needs.

While I agree with what you stated, damage is the only stat that seems to be useful in this game now a days. Have you noticed that any other champions than these Sejuani Malphite Rammus don't benefit that well from building straight tank with resistances?

gabetheguyDec 7, 20172 votes

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While I agree with what you stated, damage is the only stat that seems to be useful in this game now a days. Have you noticed that any other champions than these don't benefit that well from building straight tank with resistances?

fix the problem. don't embrace it.

Death by GlamourDec 7, 20172 votes

Soundw more like a support for the likes of corki graves or lucian (ad casters)

Athenes LuluDec 7, 20172 votes

Imagine Lulu couldn't shield, and there's your answer.

zlumpyDec 7, 20172 votes

At that point you'd just he better off playing a straight mage with cc. If you want damage but you tie it into another player entirely you risk having a really bad time. If tue other player isn't paying attention or doesn't wanna play the way you do you would effectively have no damage at all because it would all be tied into another player's choices. Alternatively they can try their hardest but I will find them, and I will heal/shield them with classic enchanters.

higuraDec 7, 20172 votes

there 2 major problems with this.

1: the champion would lose alot of the protection they need to keep assassins and divers away from the adc.

2: the main selling point of picking a enchanter over tank / mage to lane is that thier spells are more reliable, why would you pick a champion who rely on your team mates to do your portion of the damage, when you can just pick or Morgana (or any other support mage) and just burst them down yourself?.

it's basicly Kindred all over, where you shoehorn an enchanter to compete with other offensive supports. the problem is it will just be a enchanter that are less reliable at bursting than a mage and got less defensive tools than other enchanters, ultimately leaveing no reason to pick them over any of the before mentioned options.

SaltLord451Dec 7, 20171 votes

Like a Janna e without the shield right? ... sounds pretty bad unless you can somehow make it work.

iLBGAMingDec 7, 20171 votes

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Like a Janna e without the shield right? ... sounds pretty bad unless you can somehow make it work.

I don't know, it was one of the couple of suggestions that I have. But I wish that the enchanter support role would have a unique way of helping allies besides just healing them when ever they are low.

SlythionDec 7, 20171 votes

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Like a Janna e without the shield right? ... sounds pretty bad unless you can somehow make it work.

It sounds pretty bad unless it turns out to not be bad*

fixed that for ya :p

Sona PingDec 7, 20171 votes

Allow to use an ability twise (resetting the cooldown of non-ultimate abilities)

Fizz Are you sure about that?

iLBGAMingDec 7, 20171 votes

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Are you sure about that?

Ofcourse such an ability would need require to be adjusted for balancing purposes such as thinking about the mana cost, the cooldown.

An ability like this can always be an ultimate or a simple ability with a long cooldown like for Talon for his E with the terrain cooldown.

Linna ExcelDec 7, 20176 votes

Draven watch me juggle 4 axes!!!

iLBGAMingDec 7, 20173 votes

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watch me juggle 4 axes!!!

Sona PingDec 7, 20172 votes

Convinced me.

dolphinosplash24Dec 7, 20171 votes

Provide damage (on-hit damage, ability damage, next basic attack?)

Soooo Sona Q.

Provide other offensive tools

Soooo Ivern Q.

The last thing is so broken that riot wont even consider it. Lots of basic abilites have longish cooldowns to punish players for misusing them such as Gragas E and Jinx E. You really want a champion who can Body Slam you then gtfo a second later.

iLBGAMingDec 7, 20171 votes

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Soooo Sona Q.

Soooo Ivern Q.

The last thing is so broken that riot wont even consider it. Lots of basic abilites have longish cooldowns to punish players for misusing them such as Gragas E and Jinx E. You really want a champion who can Body Slam you then gtfo a second later.

"The last thing is so broken that riot wont even consider it. Lots of basic abilites have longish cooldowns to punish players for misusing them such as Gragas E and Jinx E. You really want a champion who can Body Slam you then gtfo a second later."

You know i'm surprised that certain people doubt what Riot will or will not do. If I for example had posted on the boards couple years ago of a champion Zoe who is able to use item actives and summoner spells as a passive ability everyone would of called me crazy and say that it's the most broken thing they have ever heard.

I just think people are not adjusting to the fact that Riot is making things more interesting even if they don't seem balanced, do you really believe that this game will be balanced? I don't, was it ever?