So Morgana's winrate went from 52% to 60%

iLBGAMing·Dec 7, 2017·41 votes·4,081 views

lul

88 Comments

Daddy AntsDec 7, 201720 votes

Morgana 60% Zyra 56%

Come on Riot you hotfix Sona immediately for having 57%.

Chop chop where's the hotfixes to Morg and Zyra.

RyusaetherDec 7, 201723 votes

At least they have to hit a spell ecsdee

VekknaDec 7, 20179 votes

You want Zyra to be nerfed for having a 55% WR with .8% mid play rate?

Champs sit with those numbers for months on end. Karthus top, A. Sol jungle, Wukong, etc. Rammus has been near or above 55% WR for 3 patches with a 5% play rate.

I'm opposed to most of the Sona nerfs, but you're just being ridiculous. In 7.22, Sona was near 56% WR with a 12% play rate. Do not compare that to Zyra mid.

FirethornDec 8, 20171 votes

Did you know that asol jungle is actually Asol roaming so much that riot thinks they're jungle? I thought it was really weird how asol jungle had such a high WR but I finally figured it out a couple days ago ^_^

GhaelWindsDec 8, 20171 votes

Pretty sure that's not how it works, afaik it just used what role you are in draft.

SpecterVonBarenDec 7, 20171 votes

My question is what role is Morgana's winrate in? Did it pump up her support or mid winrate more?

Daddy AntsDec 8, 20171 votes

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My question is what role is Morgana's winrate in? Did it pump up her support or mid winrate more?

All of her roles winrates have gone up.

Support Morgana had a 48% in 7.23 and now has a 52%. Mid Morgana went up from like 52% to 60%.

Daddy AntsDec 8, 20171 votes

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My question is what role is Morgana's winrate in? Did it pump up her support or mid winrate more?

Win rates:

Support 7.23: 48% Support 7.24 BEFORE hotfix: 52% Support 7.24 AFTER hotfix: 51.56%

Middle 7.23: 52.44% Middle 7.24 BEFORE hotfix: 60.23% Middle 7.24 AFTER hotfix: 58.51%

Winrates went up in both of Morgana's main roles.

The Yetii RiderDec 8, 20171 votes

It's the holiday season. Don't be a dick. We're lucky they decided to give us a whole extra patch.

RozzetaDec 8, 20171 votes

It's a different case. If Sona deals 1 damage more than what Riot considers acceptable, they nerf her healing by 50% to compensate... and later reduce her damage by 1, as well.

EkyonKunDec 7, 201710 votes

I just found out OP is technically right.

If he's Russian.

On the Russian sever, based on the average of all ranks, Morgana's mid lane win rate went from 51% to 59.6%. So there's that.

https://imgur.com/a/sGcrB

Sona PingDec 7, 20179 votes

I think you have found a key to this puzzle.

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Craft ZeppelinDec 7, 20177 votes

Tsar Bomba Veigar build item 3089

Sona PingDec 7, 20177 votes

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So Morgana's winrate went from 52% to 60%

lul

Not sure where you are seeing that. I'm getting 54%.

iLBGAMingDec 7, 20173 votes

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Not sure where you are seeing that. I'm getting 54%.

idk I saw it on Champion.gg

(screenshot below, click on it to see the full image)

https://i.imgur.com/QxJXp3Z.png

EkyonKunDec 7, 201722 votes

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idk I saw it on Champion.gg

That site is notoriously inaccurate. It's one step above judging champions based on pure intuition.

iLBGAMingDec 7, 20173 votes

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That site is notoriously inaccurate. It's one step above judging champions based on pure intuition.

What's the best site to use in your opinion?

DurzakaDec 7, 20176 votes

OP.gg is the generally accepted one.

EedatDec 7, 20172 votes

Here

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/morgana/euw/middle/platinum

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/morgana/na/middle/platinum

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Morgana/Middle/

http://champion.gg/champion/Morgana/Middle

SpecterVonBarenDec 7, 20172 votes

I'd argue intuition is far superior to that site since at least intuition won't just be based on the first week of a patch.

Mos Deadly98Dec 8, 20171 votes

champion.gg at one point said the best champion in the world was elise in brazil at 90% winrate. The stats are shit.

ProfDrDeathDec 7, 20173 votes

Not 60% here, but 58% - which is still an indicator of a massive overperformance:

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/platinum/plus/champion/Morgana/Middle/

EedatDec 7, 20171 votes

Here you go

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/morgana/euw/middle/platinum

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/morgana/na/middle/platinum

https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Morgana/Middle/

http://champion.gg/champion/Morgana/Middle

all peg her between 57-60% WR

WoodakoodashoodaDec 7, 20175 votes

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lul

Quality content post...

#Sarcasm

Craft ZeppelinDec 7, 20173 votes

But its better than a quantity crap post.

WoodakoodashoodaDec 7, 20171 votes

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But its better than a quantity crap post.

I concede to your logic.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

Dead Anime DadDec 7, 20175 votes

Morgana is an unfun champ, more at 11.

AhrisDec 7, 20174 votes

Interesting. People said Zyra and Morg got more of a nerf too.

Spank the FoxDec 7, 20172 votes

Good ol Boards’ analysists working overtime this round.

FairyfleurDec 7, 20172 votes

Zyra support was what got a nerf. Zyra mid is the one who got buffed.

StupaflyDec 7, 20173 votes

o god why.... as a morg player i dont want to a champ i play gutted because of some stupid buff

Solidair3Dec 7, 20173 votes

Her sustain is just a little too strong.

They'll have to tone that down a bit.

vgamedudeDec 7, 20172 votes

I wonder if it will go down. There hasn't been much data since it just came out I presume.

BeatzBoyFTWDec 7, 20172 votes

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lul

What happens when mid laners stop spamming Yasuo & Zed & opened their minds on trying other champions...

RivuoDec 7, 20172 votes

Heres the point . This thread jumped to conclusions for no reason. Zyra and Morg do not have a ''57'' or ''60'' % winrate.

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Eternal TormentDec 7, 20174 votes

You do know OP.gg in their statistics has a set of general winrates too? 60% is morgs current OVERALL winrate.

Ps: op.gg is the most reliable when it comes to rates.

Edit: I love how he changed the entire comment and removed everything he said previously so we, basically everyone disagreeing with him, looks dumb and wrong insert dissapointed sigh

SkorchDec 7, 20171 votes

not 60% 50% and this is after 1 day and i KNOW that op.gg isnt reliable after 1 day of testing.

Eternal TormentDec 7, 20172 votes

op.gg next to champion.gg is the only source-giving Website that has had a consistency, which wouldn't be the case if people could not trust it.

k wìxDec 7, 20172 votes

Played a few games against her in the bot lane - I don't really notice much of a difference honestly.

Still haven't really seen her mid yet.

Very Hard EngageDec 7, 20172 votes

sourced from over 3100 games played.... yeah id give it a week before i make any decisions based on a limited pool like that.

you have to remember champion.gg uses the most latest and updated information it has. and its sample size was literally yesterday.

Malix FarwinDec 7, 20171 votes

Well i mean if you played against the new Morg you will see why quite quickly. She is kinda the perfect mid laner. Blocks CCs, Wave Clear, Damage, Easy Poke, Sustain, and a strong Hard CC which can also be used to help peel for her team.

hhaavviikkDec 7, 20173 votes

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Well i mean if you played against the new Morg you will see why quite quickly. She is kinda the perfect mid laner. Blocks CCs, Wave Clear, Damage, Easy Poke, Sustain, and a strong Hard CC which can also be used to help peel for her team.

she's always been like that though, even before the changes in this patch

Lunar LunacyDec 8, 20171 votes

This is the opposite of what I expected when they changed her passive. I guess I should go play some morgana now, I do have mastery 7 on her... lol

iLBGAMingDec 8, 20172 votes

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This is the opposite of what I expected when they changed her passive. I guess I should go play some morgana now, I do have mastery 7 on her... lol

Bind your [show mastery emote] to one of your abilities lol

ZURELLDec 8, 20171 votes

too bad its not 69

Based YagerDec 8, 20171 votes

muh winrates

RottedApplesDec 8, 20171 votes

i mean i looked at the changes on the pbe and thought they might be a bit strong.

But i'll happily play freelo for now, i do like the champion, and the possible drain tank playstyle might be interesting to look into.

EkitaihDec 8, 20171 votes

Yea. Riot thought she was too stronk and decided to drop her to lower than what she was. Lmao. Of course, I know it’s 20% at all levels instead of 10/15/20. Basically they buffed her, realized it was too strong, then nerfed her below her original status. Lmao.