so gj riot once again for making varus weaker why do u hate him...... and yes i keep posting but my point still stands.. when the adcs went through a update why did varus get screwed and every one else got buffed ....................yes gj lets make his ult do like less then half of the original base damage but it give 3 blight stacks over time...... who cares . then u give him some stupid asss buff if thats what u call it.
Elisheva3 votesGet good?
khorney1 votesAnd , I'm right still doesn't change the fact.... do tell why varus was nerfed but all the other adcs were buffed..... yes make his ultimate do considerably less damage like 60% less base damage but it apply 3 stacks of blight over time....
Elisheva1 votesAnd , I'm right still doesn't change the fact.... do tell why varus was nerfed but all the other adcs were buffed..... yes make his ultimate do considerably less damage like 60% less base damage but it apply 3 stacks of blight over time....
He isn't weak, I assure you. He may not fit you're current playstyle, but he can still do massive damage per hit. Issue is, he isn't played like ashe/jinx/typical adcs, you actually need to use your blight stacks for damage. Even as support varus (which i realize isn't his optimal role, i just take every champ jg/top/sup), I still made the enemy ashe back every 2 or so waves with q alone, no stacks, and her braum wasn't far behind her.
khorney1 votesand i can assure u i know how to play as varus. A. when the marksmen update came out his ult was nerfed to shyt, it literelally cut ethe base damage in half..... but gave u 3 stacks on it OVERTIME not instant which is bs. So do tell why he was nerfed ?B. when they nerfed fervor by losing the on hit damage it made him weaker.C. when they changed lethlity they made his caster build pretty much useless becuase he lost massive damage and certain items lost a whole lot of value . He has higher cds then most adcs and higher mana cost then most adcs...... so do tell why you think he is strong.
Elisheva1 votesand i can assure u i know how to play as varus. A. when the marksmen update came out his ult was nerfed to shyt, it literelally cut ethe base damage in half..... but gave u 3 stacks on it OVERTIME not instant which is bs. So do tell why he was nerfed ?B. when they nerfed fervor by losing the on hit damage it made him weaker.C. when they changed lethlity they made his caster build pretty much useless becuase he lost massive damage and certain items lost a whole lot of value . He has higher cds then most adcs and higher mana cost then most adcs...... so do tell why you think he is strong.
I didn't tell you why I think he's strong, I told you why he is strong. Big difference. Issue here is, you don't want to learn a different playstyle or item path on him, so you think it's a fault with the champion itself.
khorney1 votesumm i know item paths and builds crit is boring and damage output isnt that great as well as that has nothign to do with him. 2 on hit that i had built was in fact his strongest build period still is however lsoing damage becuase fervor had gotten nerfed..... 3 caster u cant do it anymore i mean u can but why its weak as shyt and nerfed to hell by means of lethlity and items containing it. so yes i know what im talking about
Elisheva1 votesumm i know item paths and builds crit is boring and damage output isnt that great as well as that has nothign to do with him. 2 on hit that i had built was in fact his strongest build period still is however lsoing damage becuase fervor had gotten nerfed..... 3 caster u cant do it anymore i mean u can but why its weak as shyt and nerfed to hell by means of lethlity and items containing it. so yes i know what im talking about
Your examples have yet to instill faith in me that you know what you are talking about, but good night my friend!
Nick Da Chip1 votesOk man I've seen a lot of your posts up to now but this is just completly untrue. They nerfed his ults damage by 100-200, but the fact that it freely stacks 3 blight was a huge buff. Your always gonna do more as long as you can pop it. There is no way you can think that. I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt and thought maybe you were just stubborn but after reading this its apparent that you don't know what you are talking about.
khorney1 votesit was by 350 but okay.it doesnt freely stack .... its over 2 secs.... by that time there will be 3 stacks ....... before the ult stacks. hey man u clearly never play varus nor care
khorney1 votesokay every other adc got buffed besides varus do u not get that.... cait is busted as shyt yes now her net procs her passive and she can literally 1 shot u off it..... kog used ot be good then they nerfed him and no one plays him anymore..... so do tell what exactly good on varus and op as you stated ......
Furor Nexis3 votesHey I did some quick math.
Varus base AS at level 1: 0.65 Quint of AS x3: 13.5% AS
BASE AS + QUINTS AT LEVEL 1 : 0.785 AS AS TOTAL PER MINION KILL PER 5 SECONDS AT LEVEL 1: 0.942 AS AS TOTAL PER CHAMPION KILL PER 5 SECONDS AT LEVEL 1: 1.09
AS Base @ Level 1 + Berserker's Greaves: 1.05 AS TOTAL PER MINION KILL: 1.26 AS TOTAL PER CHAMPION KILL: 1.47
AS BASE @ LEVEL 1 + BERSERKERS AND RUNAAN'S: 1.47 AS TOTAL PER MINION KILL: 1.76 AS TOTAL PER CHAMPION KILL: 2.05
TOTAL ATTACK SPEED POTENTIAL AT LEVEL ONE WITH RUNAAN'S HURRICAN PLUS BERSERKER'S GREAVS AND A CHAMPION KILL: 2.05 ATTACK SPEED
Okay. Tell me a champion that gets THAT MUCH attack speed from only 2 items without having to sacrifice something in their kit to achieve it.
khorney1 votesKog , trIst, tf, sivir, ashe, with those 2 items. What varus gets off his passive ashes gains attack speed and damage off her q. TrIst sure it's a active but it's reliable varus has to kill someone in order to gain it. It's not awesome why you people keep saying he is in a good spot need to stop. Seeing he was fine before fervor was nerfed and lethality was changed and nerfed. To what he got a stupid biff that doesn't directly effect him. Not to mention in the marksmen update why was he the one who got nerfed. Yes ult does way less damage but nothing was gained from it.....I reach that attacks peed with the build I use anyway so no it does nothing . Yes cool story at lvl 1 but what happens beyond that? Ohh wait he falls off gj
Shuyin1782 votesCalm down kid, your warm milk will be out of the microwave in a moment.
Miror B1 votesReally? For me varus is stupidly overpowered if you have the right teamcomp built around him (assuming you take him mid). Not only does he have pretty effective waveclear, but the more recent crit-build I've been trying out makes his damage relatively scary. He's like twitch, only safer.
khorney1 votescrit build doesnt make him strong thats a standard adc build that works on every adc...... and cait has a better wave clear. pretty much any adc has a better wave clear.
kawaii gay thug1 votesPicked up recently after being a ad main for a couple years got to say hes really strong hes my most played champ in season 7 and i got a 71% winrate with him in ranked he seems really powerful in the mid and early game im looking at your match history with him and your build is a joke maybe thats why your losing games with him? ult with the blight stacks and a q chunks i seriously just think ur build is awful and thats why your doing bad on him just go essence reaver runnans ie like your obv not gunna be doing damage with your q if your mainly building attack speed.
khorney1 votesOn hit building is not a joke.... you want to fight me and see ......it's his strongest build and my gripe is they nerfed it due to fervor being nerfed...... and rage blade is good on any adc ..... the hybrid on hit damage makes it so you kill people regardless kinda like corki . What's funny is when I try and build him crit adc(the weak way) I lose..... when I build him my way I win more often then not .....
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesOn hit building is not a joke.... you want to fight me and see ......it's his strongest build and my gripe is they nerfed it due to fervor being nerfed...... and rage blade is good on any adc ..... the hybrid on hit damage makes it so you kill people regardless kinda like corki . What's funny is when I try and build him crit adc(the weak way) I lose..... when I build him my way I win more often then not .....
I'm no ADC main, but I'm getting a ton of headaches reading these.
BoredToday1 votesYou're building the on-hit wrong. The onhit build, nowadays is Guinsoo-->Hurricane-->BT/IE/ADC Items
khorney1 votesUmm the point of on hit is to stack it .....hence on hit. Nashors is on hit ,varus w is on hit , blade of the ruined king is on hit. Bt and ie are not on hit
Spârky1 votesBro calm your tits just because your favorite champion isnt the best doesnt mean you gotta complain about it. They just reworked his passive so now its literally a jinx passive only with a/s I think all he needs now is riot to either make him a spellcaster or a aa adc they need to stop making him a in between. So i think now he just needs some numbers tweaks then he will be viable even more than he is. I think he is in a fine spot atm
khorney1 votesWhy do you think I keep posting..... what they did and call it a buff is not a buff ...... who cares about his stupid useless passive...... you have to kill for a temp attack speed ..... pointless and useless ....meanwhile every adc out performs him 10 fold . Every other adc has a reliable attack speed ..... varus does not... ashe with her q kog q trIst q jinx q . He'll jhin is a better version of him same as corki.... they nerfed his damage when they nerfed fervor from on hit . Then they nerfed lethality which made his caster build useless...also why build him caster when you can play ez and do more damage.....what varus has over every adc is on hit... it's actually better then kog due to there are no actives to use the on hit..... what makes him in a fine spot.... smart asss
Spârky1 votesBro you can get a/s speed from killing a minion. A FUCKING MINION. And he does so much dmg if you auto auto q someone early its nuts. Learn to play varus man Peace out
khorney1 votesBro other adcs don't need to do anything to gain attack speed. Varus was fine before then they nerfed him inadvertently by nerf ing fervor and lethality
Lord Dusteon2 votesBro other adcs don't need to do anything to gain attack speed. Varus was fine before then they nerfed him inadvertently by nerf ing fervor and lethality
Let's see, Caitlyn doesn't get AS at all, Sivir has to have her W up and only has AS while W is up, Tristana needs to use her long cooldown AS steroid, Ashe needs to use her Q which requires several stacks and seconds in combat to get, Draven needs to use his W which is short duration and costs a decent amount, Twitch needs to use his Ambush which removes his escape for the steroid, Ezreal needs to land many skills, Jinx needs to be in extremely short ADC range, etc.
Varus has to kill a single minion or kill/assist on a champion to get a massive AS boost. The only other AS boosts that come close cost mana and an entire skill or have extreme tradeoffs (Jinx's extreme short range and no on demand CC for example).
Oh, and bonus points for Varus having a almost 52% winrate in Plat+ games with a 5% pickrate.
khorney1 votesYes having to kill someone to gain 20% ohhhhhh man so game changing.
Lord Dusteon1 votesYes having to kill someone to gain 20% ohhhhhh man so game changing.
Oh man, great reply. It's almost right too, except you forgot the +25% bonus attack speed scalar it ALSO has with it. I really liked how you didn't refute a single one of my points though, that was nice.
khorney1 votesMinus it's unreliable........ everyone has something better and it last for 4 secs..... ohhh Man .
Lord Dusteon2 votesMinus it's unreliable........ everyone has something better and it last for 4 secs..... ohhh Man .
It lasts 5 seconds, and enemies Varus can hit for it are basically everywhere. Oh, and the +25% bonus AS scalar is pretty damn important here. At level 1 with normal runes + masteries (AS masteries in Ferocity tree, 3 AS quints) that's +4.5% AS just from the Scalar. With his boots and level 6, that's 16% bonus AS (so 36% AS for killing a minion, or 72% for getting a kill or assist on a champion). With his Runaans, Boots, and level 11 that is 30% bonus AS (50% AS TOTAL for killing a single minion, 100% AS for getting a kill or assist on a champion).
But hey, tell me more how the guy with 2 AoE skills, both decent range, and 1 very decent range skill that also spreads to enemies is 'unreliable' at hitting enemy champions for a single assist for 100% AS boost. But hey, tell me more how killing a single enemy minions is hard. But hey, tell me more how 'everyone has something better' when the best AS steroids are all weaker then his and cost an actual ability slot (Jinx has to be in low range for 70% AS, Tristana's has a 20+ second cooldown, etc.).
Nick Da Chip1 votesI like that you went out of the way to type this but this guy literally doesn't have any type of rationality to him. He is the embodiment of the clueless, hostile, and ignorant players whom make up the population of those known as toxic.
Nightmareland1 votesHello. Varus main since 2018 here. Varus is weak in current meta not because he is weak in the laning. If you stack properly you can win lane. You need a good support tho. Mid and late game, it sucks, since immobile, even if you play behind team, and just stack and snipe carefully, you still die from a Rengar/KhaZix/any assasin, bcz you play with feeders :) League of Legends is a fun game :)