Can this section be renamed to Circlejerk & Whining?

Reformed Dunni·Aug 31, 2015·51 votes·2,105 views

The existing name doesn't seem to fit.

43 Comments

Mecha MaIphiteAug 31, 201518 votes

vayne op discusting champignon

incoherent grunts

HugifyAug 31, 201513 votes

looks at english-french dictionnary

Yes,an annoying mushroom she Is.

5000000000000000Aug 31, 201511 votes

Vayne=Teemo shroom confirmed

Tails DollSep 1, 20154 votes

It's funny, but the same is said about people trying to defend her. Everyone willfully ignores counter arguements.

Anti Vayne: "I DONT CARE IF SHE IS SQUISHY AF AND YOU CAN KILL HER BY JUST BREATHING IN HER GENERAL DIRECTION, SHE IS OP HUR HUR"

Pro Vayne : "I DONT CARE SHE JUST NEEDS A BOTRK TO COME BACK AND BE RELEVANT, NOR THAT SHE IS THE SAFEST ADC HYPER CARRY ON THE GAME, SHE IS BALANCED HUR HUR".

Gregor GysiSep 1, 20151 votes

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"I DONT CARE SHE JUST NEEDS A BOTRK TO COME BACK AND BE RELEVANT, NOR THAT SHE IS THE SAFEST ADC HYPER CARRY ON THE GAME, SHE IS BALANCED HUR HUR".

Don't you think that this is really the worst possible place to be so biased? You are implying that Vayne being the safest ADC Hyper Carry/only needs BORK to come back is an obvious fact - which it is not. Of course, you could argue that she is, but seeing how Trist was supposed to be the safest Hypercarry not too long ago you can't just assume that this is a fact. Pretty ironic for you to be this biased..

Tails DollSep 1, 20151 votes

The problem is that she indeed only needs BoTRK to be relevant. She doesnt reach late game power like some idiots say, but she is relevant with it.

A late game trist will indeed be more powerful than a late game Vayne, her range, siege, and clean up potential is one of the highest of all hyper carries.

The difference is that Vayne is more RELIABLE. If Trist gets screwed in lane, she needs to farm at least 2/3 items to be able to do something meaninful, she wont be able to kill anyone with just a IE, especially tanks.

Vayne gets a BoTRK and suddently she has a HUGE kill potential on EVERYONE on the map. Unless you are a 5/0 Draven, you CANT duel her, most of the bullies will no longer be able to control her unless EXTREAMLY ahead, this because self peel+stun+stealth are very powerful tools to duel.

This IS a problem with Vayne, you cant just pick someone like Graves and destroy her in lane making her useless for the next 20 min, like before, she used to need at least 2/3 items, now she just needs BoTRK.

If you dont believe, play a few games with her. See how huge of a power spike BoTRK is.

Gregor GysiSep 1, 20151 votes

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The problem is that she indeed only needs BoTRK to be relevant. She doesnt reach late game power like some idiots say, but she is relevant with it.

A late game trist will indeed be more powerful than a late game Vayne, her range, siege, and clean up potential is one of the highest of all hyper carries.

The difference is that Vayne is more RELIABLE. If Trist gets screwed in lane, she needs to farm at least 2/3 items to be able to do something meaninful, she wont be able to kill anyone with just a IE, especially tanks.

Vayne gets a BoTRK and suddently she has a HUGE kill potential on EVERYONE on the map. Unless you are a 5/0 Draven, you CANT duel her, most of the bullies will no longer be able to control her unless EXTREAMLY ahead, this because self peel+stun+stealth are very powerful tools to duel.

This IS a problem with Vayne, you cant just pick someone like Graves and destroy her in lane making her useless for the next 20 min, like before, she used to need at least 2/3 items, now she just needs BoTRK.

If you dont believe, play a few games with her. See how huge of a power spike BoTRK is.

You missed the point. I didn't even deny that Vayne is the safest ADC/is relevant with only BORK - nor did I agree. The thing is that even you might argue that she is both and probably could find some arguments why that is the case (which you did) - you assumed both for an undeniable fact which is denied by only Vayne QQmains. That shows that you are pretty biased - which is ironic considering the topic. You could've said something along the lines "Pro Vayne: Vayne has shit tier lategame because short range, needs buff fasdeöfj" so that your own opinion doesn't show, yet you didn't.

Tails DollSep 1, 20151 votes

I have no idea what the fuck are you trying to say dude.

The Sword SaintAug 31, 201510 votes

Hey, some people do try to have reasoned, calm discussions about things that don't always toe the community line.

Chromatic EagleSep 1, 20151 votes

And sometimes the community line isn't bullshit.

1000angrybeesSep 1, 201510 votes

-Violent angsty rants about vayne

-picking apart every single aspect of Ahri's kit

-Mordekaiser is great/mordekaiser is bad/"WTF CHANGE MORDE BACK"

-something something Garen

-SORAKA IS CANCER

-Tank meta/tank items/armor nerfs

-someone thinking they're better because of rank/bashing other people's ranks

-yelling at rioters/all posts directed towards riot repertoir for answers/certainlyT sucks

I think i got most of it down here.

Tails DollSep 1, 20152 votes

Well CertainlyT does suck.

SookoSep 1, 20152 votes

And an occasional Riven Lovejoy/Arsames thread too

TotalJerkAug 31, 20157 votes

It's the %%%%ing vote system. It breeds circlejerking.

A Miss FortuneSep 1, 20157 votes

I think the Boards complains too much, or the community in general but I can also see a lot of reasons why people would complain so much and I think a lot of it is valid.

With champions like Riven, Kalista, and Fizz, who are clearly not balanced or healthy for the game do we rarely hear from Riot on their stance of the champion. Only until recently (yesterday) Riot said they were looking into Vayne. The last time Riven got nerfed I think her win rate actually went up, the nerfs were irrelevant and didn't hurt her at all. Now Riot is once again "nerfing" Fizz yet simultaneously buffing him to soften the actual nerfs.

And can I just mention that Devourer went from the worst enhancement aside from on maybe Warwick, to deciding the fate of most solo queue games. Whoever has the Xin Zhao, Shyvana, Yi, Kayle, etc with Sated instantly win. There's minimum counterplay to a full tank build Yi running at you and doing 900+ true damage not including his own physical damage and the magical damage from Devourer.

Oh and not to mention that Riot reworked multiple fun, off-meta champions that were mostly fine as it is and now all of them are either considered broken or overpowered.

Oh and I find it hilarious that Zed and Lee Sin received large buffs and Kassadin just gets like 20 more damage on his ultimate. But It's okay they're buffing Lux. She'll....still be the same and her problems still aren't solved.

Tails DollSep 1, 20151 votes

gets a flashback to old Karma GOD DAMN IT RITO!

A Miss FortuneSep 1, 20151 votes

Unfortunately I wasn't playing during old Karma. I love Karma right now but people told me she was more than just R > Q all game long before her rework.

Tails DollSep 1, 20151 votes

She had much much options. She was a versitil support that could help her teammates while also screw up enemy team. The only thing she didnt have was CC.

She had Heal, a fucking Strong Shield, MS boost/Slow, brust dmg, OH and TWO charges on her ult!, and one of the trolliest passive in game, that made clunch plays incredible fun.

To be honest, all old Karma needed was the new Support items and stuff, she couldnt afford to build G/S items, but since that's not longer athing, I think old Karma could be very Viable in this meta.

PennsAug 31, 20155 votes

Its a section for gameplay and balance feedback right? What else should you do lel?

Reformed DunniAug 31, 201510 votes

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Its a section for gameplay and balance feedback right? What else should you do lel?

Barely anyone discusses about champs and gameplay in with reasoning, all you hear is I'm sick of going against "x" champ and the circlejerkers upvote also getting beat by a champ then making a post about it.

Also for some reason G&B think that they are the "majority" of the player base that hates "x" champ but in actuality

6.8 million>G&B 200+

PennsAug 31, 20151 votes

And how exactly did you imagine this section? Discussing with someone that can actually change something would imply Rioters actually writing something in here. But they dont care about balance. They dont even nerf any of the obviously overtuned stuff next patch. Maybe they read everything, but they more often than not just ignore it and/ or dont give their opinions. I dont blame them tho I bet they got much to do to kek.

Reformed DunniAug 31, 20154 votes

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And how exactly did you imagine this section? Discussing with someone that can actually change something would imply Rioters actually writing something in here. But they dont care about balance. They dont even nerf any of the obviously overtuned stuff next patch. Maybe they read everything, but they more often than not just ignore it and/ or dont give their opinions. I dont blame them tho I bet they got much to do to kek.

I imagine this section using reasoning and facts instead of making pointless threads with no effort such as "Vayne 1v5 penta'd my team in 5 seconds she has no counterplay".You guys always over-exaggerate a champs abilities to try and get your point across. Riot probably used to care but I dont blame them whining constantly without any good reasons and Riot hate threads I wouldn't read crap on here If I was them.

PennsAug 31, 20152 votes

The whine is kinda understandable tho considering they make it worse every single patch lol.

Sentinel HydraSep 1, 20154 votes

But Vayne is sooooo op, i mean like %hp true damagez, extreme self peel, big TONZ of mobility, giant steriod boostz for 10 seconds, MASSIVE damagez, good at every stage of the game even early game cuz shes playing safe, and 0 counterbuild and counterplay potential!!!

Remlap1223Sep 1, 20155 votes

"Hey guys, give me upvotes! I believe Riven and Vayne are broken!"

G&B 2015

yellowbricksAug 31, 20154 votes

Yeah gameplay and balance is quite a misnomer as this game barely has either of those.

AstroFerrari Aug 31, 20153 votes

I'm surprised they didn't downvote your thread to hell. People really can't handle the truth, and I agree with you completely

Akali is SO HOTAug 31, 20153 votes

Biggest +1 I've ever given a G&B thread. This should be stickied tbh

DreadlocksAug 31, 20151 votes

lol, very blunt.. and accurate.

powerbatsAug 31, 20151 votes

This could be an apt description for most of the current boards and old ones alike. The daily reminder from the same posters every time or the same posters whining about something for months or years on end whether it be they can't get out of wood tier or x champion is broken because they can't beat it etc.

Reformed DunniAug 31, 20152 votes

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This could be an apt description for most of the current boards and old ones alike. The daily reminder from the same posters every time or the same posters whining about something for months or years on end whether it be they can't get out of wood tier or x champion is broken because they can't beat it etc.

Sad this is what it turned into, when the new boards went live G&B had some pretty decent discussions

Arcade AndrewAug 31, 20151 votes

what about "%%%%%ing and complaining"? thats all they ever do

AlphariteAug 31, 20151 votes

BUT MAH VAYNE/LEE/RIVEN/FIZZ/AZIR/VIKTOR ANY OTHER FUCKING CHAMP THAT BECOMES EVEN SLIGHTLY STRONG EVER OR JUST REKS THEM RANTS ARE SO CONSTRUCTIVE :S

Towboat421Sep 1, 20151 votes

Well you are also posting this in the wrong section....

warpenguin555Sep 1, 20151 votes

i like bitching and moaning better but w.e same thing really

BudupopsSep 1, 20151 votes

some of us actually try to post good things, like nerf galio threads

seriously nerf him pls

feral rrooaarrrrSep 1, 20151 votes

Well if there were no complaints about the current champions things would never really change would they. I mean riot has an entire department dedicated to changing champions to balance the game, and i like to believe they pick the weaker ones to buff and the stronger ones to nerf. Maybe its just my opinion, but if you don't want to hear about champions being too weak or too strong (and if there are enough posts where you see it frequently that's a good sign they may have some gameplay issues) then you shouldn't be in this section, or for that matter have any say on the state of the game. You don't have to agree with everything said about a champion, but to not even consider it is ignorant. If every champion were perfectly balanced as some people seem to think, then would wouldn't have new patches or a balance team, oh and the game would be dead by now.