Why did Yi kill our full tank Nasus in 5 seconds?

Reformed Dunni·Aug 5, 2015·10 votes·2,075 views

Remove this please especially since tank items are getting nerfed.The jungle role was much more healthy with the regular devourer.

26 Comments

ReikkenAug 6, 20156 votes

"Why did Yi kill our tank"

Active: Master Yi's basic attacks deal bonus true damage for 5 seconds.

Yi is supposed to be able to kill anything. He's Yi. You're supposed to beat him with focus fire and hard CC, not tanking his damage in a 1v1 duel. Cutting through his enemy's defenses 1 on 1 is exactly what he's made to do.

Only Play DariusAug 5, 20155 votes

Because Yi not only has a very strong late game, but he can use his ult and completely ignore wither.

He's one of the few champs who can deal with a late-game Nasus.

Shroom JunkieAug 6, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FERX7oGm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-05T23:02:26.540+0000)

Because Yi not only has a very strong late game, but he can use his ult and completely ignore wither.

He's one of the few champs who can deal with a late-game Nasus.

lolololololol

yeah you're funny bruh Yi is strong at almost all times of the game, especially laner Yi. I once finally got my Devourer, then went bot lane that was being ganked, both of them at halfish health, the enemy jungler and support at 3/4-ish health and ADC at about half, and I just go in with about 3/4 health myself and destroy them so hard. I melt the ADC, turn to the jungler and take him down just before he gets to tower, then go in on the support under tower, kill him, and get out and W so that the last tower shot about to kill me gets halfed and I get out with a little less than 50 health.

This is just Devourer, plus base damages and my ADC and support. Dufuq? You call this 'weak'?! You got some serious issues brosef.

Vistha KaiAug 5, 20155 votes

Why did Master Yi kill Nasus?

CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED CANNOT BE SLOWED

Old Man TeetoAug 5, 20155 votes

5 seconds is a hell of a long time.

Also Yi is immune to Nasus's only CC so he gets to free-hit the entire 5 seconds with triple steroids.

Tbh, how did Nasus live so long? Should probably nerf Nasus.

EndlessSorcererAug 6, 20155 votes

That doesn't actually have anything to do with Sated Devourer; Master Yi has crushed Nasus late-game ever since Highlander made him immune to attack speed slows.

Master Yi can use Meditate to absorb one Q and Highlander makes him immune to Wither. Master Yi can simply out-damage Nasus's healing and has high enough DPS to shred through Nasus' health pool.

HateDaddyAug 6, 20154 votes

Yi without devourer can melt a full build Nasus in seconds. The only way Nasus wins that 1v1 late game is if his Q is farmed enough to 2 shot Yi or if Yi is dumb enough to engage him when highlander is on cooldown.

People don't realize how much damage a full DPS melee carry can do, they by far out damage ranged ADCs, it's just that they're melee and never able to consistently do their damage safely.

CreationFlawAug 5, 20153 votes

Probably because your Nasus was trash. If you can't kill a squishy yi with full build lategame if you're pretty much full tank you're doing it wrong.

ALSO, person above me, Nasus Wither affects movement speed and attack speed, Highlander only affects movement speed, his attack speed still gets shredded.

Vistha KaiAug 5, 201513 votes

Wrong.

The slow immunity of Highlander also includes those applied by Flee, Charm and Polymorph, as well as all forms of attack speed reduction.

YumaS2AstralAug 5, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Vistha Kai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FERX7oGm,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-08-05T23:12:53.062+0000)

Wrong.

It actually used to not be wrong, but some patches ago attack speed slows were changed to count as regular slows so anything that slows attack speed is affected by anything that also affects regular movement speed slows. This includes Yi's ult, which effectively renders him immune to attack speed slows. One of the reasons why Yi is so powerful with Sated Devourer.

I wouldn't be surprised if Yi actually gets to 1x1 a full tank Nasus late game even with many stacks. Probably Nasus didn't had Thornmail. And if Nasus had, Yi probably had BotrK + Bloodthirster

Vistha KaiAug 5, 20154 votes

Even if they didn't change that, Nasus' Wither is still a single effect and as such would be ignored by Yi.

EndlessSorcererAug 6, 20151 votes

That was added back around Patch 3.13 though, so their information was two years out of date.

Sir YamazukiAug 6, 20151 votes

{quoted}

It actually used to not be wrong, but some patches ago attack speed slows were changed to count as regular slows so anything that slows attack speed is affected by anything that also affects regular movement speed slows. This includes Yi's ult, which effectively renders him immune to attack speed slows. One of the reasons why Yi is so powerful with Sated Devourer.

I wouldn't be surprised if Yi actually gets to 1x1 a full tank Nasus late game even with many stacks. Probably Nasus didn't had Thornmail. And if Nasus had, Yi probably had BotrK + Bloodthirster

Wrong. It was always like that. It was never "added", Riot simply clarified it was intended since people noticed it and started complaining about it being a "bug".

53436278DEL1Aug 5, 20151 votes

wrong

SkiasAug 6, 20151 votes

{quoted}

ALSO, person above me, Nasus Wither affects movement speed and attack speed, Highlander only affects movement speed, his attack speed still gets shredded.

Doesnt stop his double strikes. Which multiply with devourer. He needs a hell of a lot less swings to get his 2 extra swings. I would say wither is completely ineffective against full build Yi. Especially if he has Youmuus

Probably because your Nasus was trash. If you can't kill a squishy yi with full build lategame if you're pretty much full tank you're doing it wrong.

KVbqbFsC8eAug 5, 20153 votes

Sated Yi is hilariously broken. He will kill your tanks while being impossible to itemize against. 40% of your health dealt as true damage, haha. Balanced.

DarthSpectrumAug 5, 20152 votes

Your Nasus was probably trash if he lost 1 v 1, or perhaps Nasus didn't have his ultimate up.

KONO RUBICK DAAug 5, 20152 votes

cause yi counters nasus

53436278DEL1Aug 5, 20151 votes

yi isnt balanced

AMADEUSdotEXEAug 6, 20151 votes

Your nasus lacked q

CasterGilgameshAug 6, 20151 votes

its because riot hates tanks and yi is broken

SasogwaAug 6, 20151 votes

As both a Nasus and Yi main, a Nasus well in his game should beat Yi throughout midgame. But if he's had a hard laning/ Yi is pretty fed, Yi's gonna win. Lategame though, if Yi has sated, he melts everything. If he also builds a bit of armor/health, I think he should duel a 1k stacks Nasus.

Which I agree is not really healthy.

I guess Yi should orient his build for sthg like item 3047 item 3931 item 3153 item 3035 item 3072 item 3143 if he wants to shit on Nasus 1v1. Yeah, you must think 'why no crit' but actually against tanks, he'd rather have less reflection from thornmail (crits = big reflection), more lifesteal and more true damage as well. Maybe item 3111 if Nasus has thornmail and/or there are some annoying CC in the opposite team. Nasus should go like item 3047 item 3110 item 3065 item 3078 item 3143 item 3075 to 1v1 Yi. But he's gonna take a lot of damage from true damage (like, if he dies, half his death recap is true damage, which is pretty crazy).

VoidgolemAug 6, 20151 votes

fix spaghetti code so that "Immunity to Slows" no longer means "Cannot Reduce AS" and thus make randuins/FH/Wither/Exhaust less actively counterproductive against Yi and Olaf.