Why does QSS clear morde's ult but not camille's?

JuiceBoxP·Jun 25, 2019·1 votes·1,569 views

And it was all very clear why qss didn't clear camille's ult, because it would totally nullify her entire ult with a 1350 gold item.

But now that mordekaiser has an ult that is essentially a different version of camille's... I would say even less punishing because in camille's you can get teamed on.

Both ultimates are crowed control abilities that prevent you from exiting a certain zone.

I fail to see how camille's ult is different and why you can't QSS it now.

I would call out riot to change either one of them to make it unified and non-confusing.

7 Comments

Chembaron YamadaJun 25, 20192 votes

Camille's ultimate has other ways to get cancelled, like getting Camille out of the ult zone. Which is something even your team can help you with, since they are still around to help you, unlike in the case with Mordekaiser.

About "making them unified and non-confusing", that is not necessary. Camille's ultimate directly states "the target cannot escape through any means". This sentence already indicates that QSS is not going to help you. Mordekaiser's ult does not state the same.

Moody PJun 25, 20191 votes

Camille ult doesn't remove somebody from a fight entirely and the power of this spell even used for an instant is potentially game winning with how it can completely steal somebody's opportunity to make a play

JuiceBoxPJun 25, 20191 votes

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Camille ult doesn't remove somebody from a fight entirely and the power of this spell even used for an instant is potentially game winning with how it can completely steal somebody's opportunity to make a play

While what you are saying is true, they still fall under the same category of cc.

The the main arguement that justifies qss on morde's ult could be applied to camille's just as easily.

The only arguement against it was that it would nullify her ult. Now that morde's ult is basically the same i find it a little funny that this behavioral difference between such similar spells occur.

The strength of the ability could be discussed, but cc type wise, they are very similar.

It's not like camille's ult doesn't have game winning potential.

GreenKnightJun 25, 20191 votes

But now that mordekaiser has an ult that is essentially a different version of camille's... I would say even less punishing because in camille's you can get teamed on.

Cammile's team can also help you if you get caught. Stupid rework's ability removes most (i'm not sure if Karthus can kill some one who's in that ult) of the outside sources of damage and support, effectively making a 1v1 arena. And that's no good for some champions.

HarrowïngJun 25, 20191 votes

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I would say even less punishing because in camille's you can get teamed on.

Cammile's team can also help you if you get caught. Stupid rework's ability removes most (i'm not sure if Karthus can kill some one who's in that ult) of the outside sources of damage and support, effectively making a 1v1 arena. And that's no good for some champions.

For Karthus, his ult is being channeled and the target changes realms, they avoid the damage