Hey cool, hextech crate! I wonder what I'll get!
Kled champion shard.
You're right, I should go fuck myself.
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Kled champion shard.
You're right, I should go fuck myself.
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
At least it's a 6300 champ, nothing better than getting a
and
champ shard plus 90 BE.
I'm so glad Riot made it easier to get more champs! My smurf now owns a whole 11 at the low low level of 29! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
But remember! BE pays out better in the long run!
I don't know in which universe people responsible for BE live, but it surely isn't this one.
How exactly BE would pay out better than IP, after 15 level ups my average BE per level is 890 and in the same number of games of the same length over the same number of days required to get from level 30 to 31 I'd get ~1100 IP.
The best part? The XP requirement to level up rises until it resets at level 50 - it goes up by 38.5% - which means I have to progressively have to play more and more games to level up to get the same reward, while in the old system I'd be getting more IP for playing more games.
PS. I've done the comparison assuming 2 games a day with 50% winrate. The more games a day you play, the worse are results for BE.
Because it's cheaper IF you get a champion shard for a champion you want. But that's RNG and there's nothing that goes "Oh hey you down own Galio, Fiora, or Riven, so we're gonna double their drop rates from level up boxes"
If you want a 6300 tier champion - assuming level up rewards have the same chance of appearing (which in my personal case is actually more like 50%/45%/4%/1%) - you are rolling a 25% chance to get a 6300 shard which then rolls a 3.125% chance for a champion you want, for a total of 0.78%.
0 point fucking 78 percent.
HOW LONG MUST I PLAY THIS GAME D:< WAS 5 YEARS NOT ENOUGH?!? REEEEEEEEEEE
If it was 4 years in the old system it's 6 years now.
Only 5 years? I thought you were planning to have enough champs to play ranked?
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
...when my account (starting in s6) first got lv30 i had 3 champions and bought all tier 3 runes and another page instead of more champions. Then paid $20 to unlock enough champs to play ranked.
Things are really not worse than they were, it's just people from way back seem to have forgotten just how fuckin slow it has always been.
you are talking bullsht then. Because I was playing at xp boost since lvl 15 before IP got changed into be and 1 week after I got lvl 30 I had all champs needed to play ranked games. Like a month ago I did sum up of 48 games I played. I barely got 4800 BE for Ahri (starting from 950 BE). Counting IP and taking average game time I would get a champ for 6300 with no problem or basically 7000 IP.
You had all the champs becuase either you didnt get t3 runes or they were free at that point or T2's were one IP. Some quints used to be like 4.8k IP if i remember right (edit: i meant for 3 of them total price, which wasnt quite correct anyways). And you really needed 2 different pages of runes.
I totally believe that without rune costs that you got enough champs to play ranked. Many champions cost less than quints and rune pages
you need basic runes for AP and AD. Most expensive quint was for 2250 and it was spell vamp quint. I summed up and before lowering the standard runes prices which I bought and used (lowering prize for only basic tier 3 runes happened long before all runes were made cost 1 IP) you needed 9250 IP to fill those 2 pages. which is half the amount of IP I used for first 20 champions needed for ranked.
you need basic runes for AP and AD. Most expensive quint was for 2250 and it was spell vamp quint. I summed up and before lowering the standard runes prices which I bought and used (lowering prize for only basic tier 3 runes happened long before all runes were made cost 1 IP) you needed 9250 IP to fill those 2 pages. which is half the amount of IP I used for first 20 champions needed for ranked.
To be honest, you could play most champions with 9 armor yellows, 9 ad / ap reds, 9 scaling mr blues / flat mr blues You didn't really need much more than that, you might say it's a disadvantage but I've known people to get to plat 3 + with only t2 runes...... For the value you received out of the runes - it wasn't bad. I played with only 2 pages for the longest time.
You had all the champs becuase either you didnt get t3 runes or they were free at that point or T2's were one IP. And you really needed 2 different pages of runes.
Except basic runes were cheap as fuck compared to the rest of runes and you quite frankly never needed more than those 2 basic rune page setups.
Some quints used to be like 4.8k IP if i remember right.
None of them ever costed that much.
I totally believe that without rune costs that you got enough champs to play ranked.
I did exactly that in Season 3. The moment I got to level 30 I had the required number of 16 champions and 2 full sets of runes and went straight for ranked queue.
Many champions cost less than quints and rune pages
Than SOME quints. Only few of them costed more than 450 and 1350 IP champions and they were almost unanimously traps, not viable and not needed.
bought all tier 3 runes and another page
Maybe that was your problem.
Things are really not worse than they were, it's just people from way back seem to have forgotten just how fuckin slow it has always been.
Excuse me? Things are not worse than they were? Are you out of your mind?
Unless you are getting 6300-tier champion shards every level you are getting less BE than you'd get IP.
We know how slow it was, and Riot made it more RNG based. I didn't use any money to unlock anything in this game, and after 5 years I have 11 rune pages, and all but like 12 champs. If we could get BE from each game as opposed to FWOTD or level ups, it would be much smoother. Or if we were more likely to get shards for champs we don't own, as we can use the shard for a cheaper buy. Kled shard can be made perm for 3780 BE, which is great because it's a little more than half but it's so random of a chance to get the champ you want.
I too opened a chest yesterday. The tension was real when I fused the key shards, preparing for the grand opening. I so hoped it was a skin shard - and it was!
...Swamp Master Kennen 520 RP, released April 8th, 2010
Oh well, at least it got company.
at least you didnt reroll 2 skins + Sandstorm ekko to get academy ekko
No, but I have tried buying a 10+1 Hextech bundle and literally got nothing I wanted.
Coral Reef Malphite Karma Hextech Janna Lord Darius Alistar Bouquet ward skin Katarina Lee Sin Forsaken Olaf Viking Tryndamere Bloodfury Renekton
The ward skin was the only one I unlocked, and even that was the one I wanted the least of all ward skins. And I've owned all champions since Christmas last year. And the skins were rubbish too.
So that was 11 EUR I'll never see again, nor got ANY value from - and the promise of Tencent not getting a single EUR ever again too. So well done them, for taking such good care of their once-upon-a-time loyal customers.
Electronic gambling, where the whole system is fixed and corporate greed reigns supreme.
I remember opening chests before this bullshit and I got few nice skins worth the wait for key fragments. Now its champ shards mostly.
So true. It just...felt more rewarding before the changes.
I wrote something on that 6 days ago:
As for the free stuff, Honour capsules mostly give champion shards. Level-up capsules also give me champion shards. Hextech keys are far between, and half the time the free chests also give me champion shards. And when I get a skin shard, it's usually rubbish. And with the current OE rates, not even that feels worth anything.
I got a "Glorious Level Capsule" yesterday (got to level 50):
Rammus Illaoi Nidalee Legend 2 emote Snow Fawn Poppy icon
The icon was nice, I suppose, but no idea what I am to do with the rest. I already got the emotes that I want - as I prefer to actually use them sensibly - and I still got all champions already. And 34692 BE. And I can't even spend it on mastery upgrades, as I am an ARAM OTP, so there are no mastery tokens to be had in the first place.
Yeah, I too have gotten some nice things, making it worth the wait. Not I haven't received a single good skin neither through free chests or purchased ones.
So no more money to Tencent from me. But if they were to give me nice things for free first (Mecha Zero Sion and/or Pulsefire Caitlyn would be nice), then I'll open the wallet again to show my appreciation, no problem. But not until then...
Oh and lets not forget riot said that with all thr shit you can get from chests and how many champ shards you get they will increase skin shards drop. Hahahaa. Good joke. They even lowered it. Thats for sure.
You know what they really said?
There will be cake.
And we actually believed them! I guess the joke is on us. ^^
On a related note, I went to Vegas and lost 20 bucks to a slot machine. Didn't get anything in return.
Fuck Riot.
That's why you play cards.
at least you didnt reroll 2 skins + Sandstorm ekko to get academy ekko
Idk why this makes me laugh so much, but it does.
Hey look champion capsule
*gets sivir for the 95th time
nice
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Kled champion shard.
You're right, I should go fuck myself.
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Look at the bright side at least it was a 6300 Champion shard you got so...still go fuck yourself, this sucks.
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Kled champion shard.
You're right, I should go fuck myself.
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
At least you got a 6300 champion and not a nunu champion shard like me.
I bet it feels rewarding doesnt it? Oh wait...
better than 5 nunus
DEFINITELY NOT GAMBLING
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I'd rather take a champion shard over a goddamn emote.
At least with emotes you get some good monetary value from it and not just some extra undervalued BE.
atleast u can bm enemies with emotes
If they don't preemptively mute them already. That's why I'm against them costing RP. You pay money for something a lot of people just mute.
we enforce people to go along a sportsmanship behaviour
creates emotes only used to bm for the cost of real money
right
Riot knows that they would be used solely for BM'ing. If they said they didn't, I'd say they were lying.
I'd rather take a champion shard over a goddamn emote.
Anytime I get a champion shard I become instantly tilted, because I own every champion.
Hey at least you didn't get two emotes in a row like this lucky guy [sg-miss-fortune]
Recently opened a chest and got 2 champ shards worth 270 BE and 200 BE, that's literally less than what I would get through a leveling capsule.
you killed my sides <3
Aren't those things free?
Atleast it wasn't a Nunu champion shard. [sg-lulu]
Opened a hextech chest with a gemstone, got a key and chest.
Hyped to open it, i open it and get Warwick and MF plus 270 BE.
Feel like i have been getting less BE/II with new system. :(
All chests I had after BE update had mostly champ shards if not all... [slayer-jinx-unamused] [sg-janna]