maybe the reason everybody was using it is because new yellow trinket sucks balls. even at level 18, the new 
gives a 120 second ward every 120 seconds, compared to the old 
which gave a 180 second ward every 60 seconds. new yellow trinket sucks, blue trinket got nerfed because yellow trinket sucked so much.
Raoul30 votesTry all you want, RIOT NEVER admits that they fucked up! They basicly hyperbuffed all champions with stealth by removing pink ward totem and the old red trinket upgrade, and I bet everything that they will nerf EVERY CHAMPION WITH STEALTH IN THE KIT before they admit they made a mistake removing these trinkets!
MasterSomething8 votesPink Wards are still in the game, and they're cheaper.
Raoul22 votesAnd kill an item space, which is a terrible thing to lose in this game, this isnt like DotA, where tanks can actually sacrifice one item slot for stealth detection and still be relevant, if you dont have a 6 item build in LoL, you are out lategame!
MasterSomething13 votesYou, er, do realize that by late game stealth champs usually can't do much if your team groups? And I was talking before late game. It's ridiculous how much people complain about one thing on here and choosing to see every bad thing possible rather than see the positives.
TonyTonyMordecai3 votesDon't know why they downvoted you, you stated a good point that's also true.
Leadpaintchips1 votesA lot of stealth champs can backdoor, so grouping isn't always a good way to beat them.
Leadpaintchips4 votesso far, how often have you actually gotten to lategame in this preseason?
My Waifu Vanilla2 votes10 out of the 17 games on my match history are 30+ minutes going all the way up to near 50 minutes with me being at nearly full build all 10 of those games (at least 4.5 items) so I personally have no idea why everyone thinks the "late game" never happens and games end ALL THE TIME at 15 minutes. The shortest game on my match history that didn't involve an AFK was ONE 20 minute surrender and then the next lowest is almost 25 minutes.
Leadpaintchips1 votesMyself, the only games I ended up playing that wasn't bots ended ~20 minutes in, and even the bot games usually ended at about 15 minutes or so. Glad to hear that there's longer games happening.
lolout121 votesIm bronze, but pretty often, I'd say my games usually go 30+minutes
Loco Little3 votesAnd kill an item space, which is a terrible thing to lose in this game, this isnt like DotA, where tanks can actually sacrifice one item slot for stealth detection and still be relevant, if you dont have a 6 item build in LoL, you are out lategame!
Games very rarely reach the 6 item slot bonus, most games are finished or at least heavily one sided before 4 items.
But Not to say I don't agree, I felt vision was in a very good place, the system that needed the least looking at. But maybe thats what was causing the 40 min games? Maybe Riot don't like vision in their LCS games and want more 'spooky bush face check fun'
Urgle1 votesGet over yourself. Stealth detection items are already to easy to acquire and can completely break champions in play. Although I don't like it, stealth detection does not need a buff. I'd rather see a nerf to it but I know thats beyond reasoning. L2build against your opponents.
PalPlays4 votesNo, they admitted it with the Morde rework (openly said it failed), and also the freshly reworked Skarner.
MrWasjig2 votesTry all you want, RIOT NEVER admits that they fucked up!
Prime example of this = Mordekaiser's current state.
Need directions to the nearest burn ward, Rito?
Clockwork Madoka1 votesTry all you want, RIOT NEVER admits that they fucked up! They basicly hyperbuffed all champions with stealth by removing pink ward totem and the old red trinket upgrade, and I bet everything that they will nerf EVERY CHAMPION WITH STEALTH IN THE KIT before they admit they made a mistake removing these trinkets!
I thought they got rid of the green wards, not the pink...
MrGems1 votes"It's never our fault"
-Riot Games
chipndip11 votesTry all you want, RIOT NEVER admits that they fucked up! They basicly hyperbuffed all champions with stealth by removing pink ward totem and the old red trinket upgrade, and I bet everything that they will nerf EVERY CHAMPION WITH STEALTH IN THE KIT before they admit they made a mistake removing these trinkets!
They admitted it with Morde, Cass, and Sona iirc, in some form or fashion from one red or another.
Steelflame5 votesHonestly, Blue trinket WAS too good. Doesn't change the fact that Yellow was also way too weak, the glaring disparity was just greater with how weak yellow was.
Honestly, I wish Sightstone could be changed into a 0 stat item, that cost 500 gold. You could optionally put it into your trinket slot (losing out on recharging wards for stronger wards that don't recharge except on recall, or giving up other trinket effects), or upgrade it into various items that several classes can use, not just supports. Change it so that all players can only keep out 2 wards + Pink ( Remember, on base yellow trinket, even after buffs next patch, you only could have 2 wards out at all times anyway, with just one period if you let it fully recharge to max with a little overlap with a 3rd ward. This just means that the support has even less of a focus on keeping out 100% of the wards. Perhaps make RSS be able to upgrade the ward cap to 3 wards for people who are truly dedicated to warding heavily).
Now warding is pretty reasonable for all classes, but supports would have natural bonuses to their standard build path because of the ease of merging the support items with the gold gen ones, compared to weaker in efficiency class specific SS options. It would also open up Sightstone to not have health as a statistic, which isn't always a desired stat (not that it is bad, but I don't want to invest in it for a SS all the time). It isn't a bad stat, mind you, but I'd rather have AP or AD on some champs than health.
Durzaka5 votesThe problem was 2 fold.
1, Yellow trinket is significantly worse than it was last season. This isnt very surprising, last season it was WAY WAY too powerful.
2, there is no other meaningful upgrade to yellow trinket. You either keep the shit warding trinket, or you upgraded to blue. Which is why you saw so many people upgrading to blue every game.
Nekusen4 votesThe problem was 2 fold.
1, Yellow trinket is significantly worse than it was last season. This isnt very surprising, last season it was WAY WAY too powerful.
2, there is no other meaningful upgrade to yellow trinket. You either keep the shit warding trinket, or you upgraded to blue. Which is why you saw so many people upgrading to blue every game.
well, i would rather pay for a upgrade than for a 
Durzaka5 voteswell, i would rather pay for a
That is exactly the problem though.
Upgraded yellow was so good, it was comparable to Sightstone, an item that actually took up an inventory spot.
Now that is pretty ridiculous by itself.
But not only did they make yellow trinket weaker (something that kind of needed to be done to some extent) they took out any upgrade at all. Which makes no sense.
My Waifu Vanilla1 votesI personally would be fine with a "pink" ward upgrade for yellow trink that literally only reveals stealth champs and not wards or anything else since right now both red trinkets cannot "reveal" stealth champs and pink wards DO take up an item space or are already placed somewhere relevant on the map. Just my thoughts.
Serevas2 votesI miss the stealth ward trinket upgrade. If I could make my pink ward last through the laning phase in top lane I'd never have to buy a ward, and post 9 the map was lit up wherever I went. I out warded supports with that thing, such a good item.
I guess Riot wanted less vision available as it was impossible to get picks when 3/5 people at minimum were running the ward factory trinket, and had 3 wards up and a pink at almost all times. You could literally have the losing side's jungle lit up like a christmas tree at all times.
Nonetheless, I think there should be a yellow trinket upgrade that at least upgrades the wards to 180 second wards, keep the CD timer and it'll restrict that same situation from happening all over again.
Admittedly the new blue trinket isn't much better than the old situation, and it's made baron baits impossible. At least the stealth wards expired, the blue trinket things are permanent.
Wheatloaf2 votesAren't they buffing yellow trinket next patch?
Partholonian4 votesYes. And the S5 yellow was too good anyway, it needed a nerf, just probably not as big a one as it got, which is why they're buffing it back some.
Nekusen2 voteskinda the point, supports have to give up an inventory slot and a lot of gold being the role with the least income. i would prefer paying for a trinket "sightstone", even if they make it more expensive than in season 5.
Crett1 votesACtually, blue ward got a net buff from this at late-game. At max level, it's cooldown is 30 seconds less.
Silents4291 votesThe blue trinket was overtuned though.
Taarki1 votesThe blue just scales harder with a lower base. It is still the same time at level 18.
Nekusen1 votesthis patch is buffing
PhoenixOfHeaven1 votesmaybe the reason everybody was using it is because new yellow trinket sucks balls. even at level 18, the new
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PhoenixOfHeaven1 votesA Series of L's like that? Really? Yeah I guess I could see that..... Thanks for clarifying.
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SirHeavyScrotum1 votesNah, blue trinket was definitely too good bud. Those goddamn blue wards were everywhere man.
