why does riot keep nerfing my main?

IllllllIIIIlllll··225 votes·8,212 views

i main gromp and s5 has been nothing but nerfs

5.7 - gromp smite buff bonus health scaling reduced to 5% 5.19 - range reduced from 550 to 250

these nerfs are huge. gromp is easily the worst champion in the game now. poppy, taric, quinn, yorick can all 1v1 gromp at ANY level. as a bronze 4 gromp main with over 1000 games played, I can say for a fact that gromp needs a complete rework. gromp's current skills are:

Q - Spits a wad of poison at the target, dealing 83 physical damage (Cooldown: 1.6 seconds) W - Hops a short distance in target direction E - Be dumb and switch to a higher health target R - Continually regenerate health until at 90% of maximum health

As is, gromp's only good ability is his ult (i managed to solo a twisted fate that sucked at kiting with it). my idea for the rework:

Q - Spits a wad of poison at the target, dealing 83 physical damage (Cooldown: 1.6 seconds) Spits a wad of poison at the target, dealing 83% maximum health true damage (Cooldown: 1.6 seconds) W - Hops a short distance in target direction Instantly teleport to a given location on the map E - Be dumb and switch to a higher health target Passive: Gromp now attacks two players at once. Gromp will focus Soraka, followed by the most fed out of the ADC and APC, followed by any bruiser top laners/junglers, followed by tanks. R - Continually regenerate health until at 90% of maximum health (UNCHANGED)

59 Comments

TheStarOfTheShow71 votes

Riot should hire you.

Ice Birb51 votes

Now we just have to buff scuttle crab

Francisco Pires54 votes

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Now we just have to buff scuttle crab

What the hell are you saying? He's fricking op with his dash! High mobility champions are already so toxic, and you want to BUFF him? Who cares he deals no damage, it's way unbalanced and op

MeesterMoo37 votes

^ plus he has ZERO RESOURCE

Smeagi4 votes

no one has any patience for that

foinhas6 votes

yeah, riot should give him a resource bar... With mana bar he wouldn't be able to spam that broken dash

EROTIC RAID BOSS3 votes

They just added a resource called patience read the patch notes noob

Garden Of Edin4 votes

WHOOSH

EROTIC RAID BOSS5 votes

I think I'm in on the joke idk ?

ThrustingTurtlez2 votes

I think the "Patience" bar is unrelated to this, though, as it's less-so a resource as it is a display for a jungling mechanic. Scuttlebuttle doesn't use Patience to dash, and said dash has no direct cooldown or cost. It's essentially a Shen dash that doesn't have a cost or a cooldown, but it also doesn't do damage or taunt. It also doesn't help that Scuttlebutt is more tanky than a Malphite who built full-armor. OpieOP.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if you were joking, it's rather hard to tell- typically, absence of punctuation used in conjunction with a derogatory ("noob") are taken seriously as insults.

CrankyChipmonk2 votes

WHOOSH

Hard Penetrator1 votes

You can spent it on getting angry. So toxic.

RisenDarkKnight14 votes

I'm sorry scuttle crab is super op. It's tankier than a mundo. And such mobility much wow! Just cc it you say, but is that really counterplay? It jukes my skillshots like a korean challenger.

CrestfallenLoL4 votes

I think you mean Korean D2.

SociopathFriend5 votes

The amount of times that dash has actually juked one of my attacks is too damn high!

CrestfallenLoL3 votes

It's called mobility creep.. and we don't need anymore of it..

Karn Bishop4 votes

Scuttles ultimate summons a 19/0/5 AD eve with trinity force whenever you try to kill it, though might need buffs due to upcoming eve nerf.

aítch1 votes

tri force is so pre jug, Titanic hydra however..........

FB Mike29 votes

Already seems better than morde's rework

TurquoiseYoshi8 votes

Wow. Freaking Gromp mains can't see balance is important. Wolves are even worse than Gromp right now, and don't even get me started on Raptors.

OperationDEEZ14 votes

good thing krugs are sleeper op

Hyrum Graff2 votes

{quoted}

good thing krugs are sleeper op

*Little Krug. Kill that guy first if you're a single-target jungler.

Boxpencil5 votes

Lmao, "I managed to solo a twisted fate that sucked at kiting with it".

xD

Ravenstiker3 votes

Also this Buff is NEEDED SO FUCKING MUCH.... Gromps dance summons Tarics And DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVENS to dance with him :D

Starblaster117 votes

That would be one fed Draven (for those who saw that post).

Ravenstiker3 votes

{quoted}

That would be one fed Draven (for those who saw that post).

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

ShaftyMegee3 votes

Give this man a medal.

SpecterVonBaren3 votes

C'mon dude, Riot's completely forgotten about Gromp, they just want to pretend he never existed while shilling Tahm on us as the "new and improved" Gromp.

Hyrum Graff3 votes

Featured game mode: DOOM GROMP

thepay32 votes

haha

Mecha MaIphite2 votes

Gromp master race.

Carnage2 votes

yes

C9 Scott Free 2 votes

This was moved to "memes and games."

RIP

Seth Blue2 votes

I was main Kassadin, that's all i'll say.

BattleOxe1 votes

I can feel your pain

Hard Penetrator1 votes

But did you felt pain of thousands supports and adc he slained while running away with his 3s cd flash?

No, I guess you didn't.

Dairdrek1 votes

It's still there, you just have to know how to use it. It actually can have 1 sec cool down if built a certain way. I am currently maiming kassadin and all you have to do to kill the adc is just ult q w ult e if they're getting ahead of you and ult again. If they aren't dead by then you did something wrong and shouldn't play kassadin because that was about three more spell casts than necessary to kill an adc

MrSexyHobo1 votes

passive: killing enemy champ causes both team to make fun of the player who died and everyone on the dead players team has to type "gg" in all chat.

Chymaerus1 votes

Laughed to tears. 😂

Rjway1 votes

You forgot his pasisve.... target anyone that has the least health in team fights next to him and it will officially say Gromp has slain an enemy.

Rozair1 votes

I'm in tears

Vincent Lucius1 votes

Gromp was OP and you know it. He got what he deserved and got to keep his overloaded kit for far too long. The rework idea might need help, but it could be tweaked.

Q is on a short enough cooldown that it could be a skillshot and upon hitting an enemy you apply a stack of bog fungus. Once you get three stacks that's when you get your percent health true damage.

His W should do 800 damage multiplied by his level as an AoE if he lands near other champions. This can also apply a stack of bog fungus.

His E is perfect as you described it.

Ultimate should stay the same as you said.

Also, this kit needs a little mini game. Perhaps Gromp could passively gain "king of the jungle" stacks for killing jungle monsters. Every stack increases the percent health true damage on his Q by three percent (with a hidden part of the passive that he gets extra stacks for killing the small jungler monsters first, you know, for that variety in gameplay. Do you go safe and kill the big monster first, or do you get that 100% health true damage faster by taking that early risk).

I think that with these changes Gromp can be a balanced champion that is fun to play as and against without all of the unfun mechanics of his old OP state.

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

ROFL quinn is a duelist she's soposed to win stay br0nze

P.S. this is part of the parody too please don't be mad

Old Man Teeto1 votes

Clearly last patch completely gimped Gromp, however your changes don't affect the ability for a team to just smite stun and burst you down.

Why is it that a summoner spell hard counters Gromp?

I suggest that Gromp enrage when smited causing him to deal persistent magic damage around him healing him for the damage done. This would separate the good Gromps from the great Gromps.

aítch1 votes

this post made me laugh and cry just as much as when H2K got drawed into group C. HA HA item 3070 item 3070

CrestfallenLoL1 votes

slow clap

Drugoth1 votes

Have to admit i was expecting another riven qq thread.

You sir are brilliant. Here, take my +1

AkiNoKaeda1 votes

No. it's not Riot, it's you, trying to main every "Riot nerfing soon" champions

Long live the non-meta champion mainers

MUHUAHUAHUA

wait, i think i should buy Gromp 2

http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/sites/default/files/styles/scale_xlarge/public/upload/article.header.grompicon_en.jpg?itok=R7sh6fTJ

MyMoldyChapstick1 votes

TIME TO SWITCH MAINS

cookiesforu1 votes

This is literally the best thread i've seen. I logged in to comment this. ILY don't ever change.

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