to everyone saying annie has no counterplay

IllllllIIIIlllll·Aug 26, 2015·202 votes·8,708 views

maybe you should learn to dodge her q

188 Comments

toonpangAug 26, 201528 votes

Great meme

Jokes aside, people really need to learn to buy Banshee's Veil [which cuts out either all of her stun, or 33% of her damage], and to just respect the area of control of a short-ranged mage.

Annie could definitely do with a small nerf to her AP ratios [10% nerf], but really doesn't need to be changed into another Veigar

Spicy RiceAug 26, 201521 votes

I just wish her ult wasnt instant. Riot nerfed veigars e for being instant and followed by huge burst. By that reasoning, she should at least have a small delay on her ult, .5 secs at max

MetalGearTeemuAug 26, 201543 votes

Riot nerfed viegars stun for shutting down zed and lee sin as support in korean LC$.

there was no "big damage" following up from the support position. they built him CDR and used cages to keep mobility under control.

Theres nothing riot hates more then people trying to find ways to combat mobility creep.

Jeanne fan clubAug 27, 20152 votes

Rito nerfs anyone who can stop #LCSBIGPLAYS, thats why Shen is getting a nerf, although a slight one, rightt?

JedenVojakAug 26, 20153 votes

Veigar's ability was a basic ability, Annie's is her ult. World of difference there.

MAN OF INTELLECTAug 26, 201516 votes

Annie can stun with three abilities, I don't see the difference.

JedenVojakAug 26, 20153 votes

Oh yeah. She stuns with her ult so often, I forgot she can do it with any spell.

The point stands though, it's based on casting multiple times, so she doesn't always have it available.

CasterGilgameshAug 26, 201510 votes

you can easily just spam q to farm since it refunds the mana cost completely

LaceUp23Aug 27, 20151 votes

Yeah, you can charge your stun FAAAAAR FASTER than the cooldown on Veigar's cage was.

JedenVojakAug 28, 20151 votes

Sure if you spam all your abilities and run yourself out of mana; mana-gement (oh ho ho) is important in lane.

LaceUp23Aug 28, 20153 votes

Yeah, Q gives her mana back.

Not to mention that Veigar RUNS OUT OF MANA USING ONLY HIS Q IN LANE. So I'm not sure why you're trying to use that as an argument.

LordGeovanniAug 28, 20151 votes

and he does that with his passive being increased mana regeneration

LaceUp23Aug 28, 20153 votes

Lol, the only thing his passive does is enable him to keep farming Q when really low. It honestly sucks ass anything about that. You hit 1 E in lane and you're fucked. Honestly, if your jungler ganks the enemy Veigar early, Veigar is going to be sooooo far behind because he won't be able to even farm anymore.

DeaerasAug 27, 20151 votes

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Great meme

Jokes aside, people really need to learn to buy Banshee's Veil [which cuts out either all of her stun, or 33% of her damage], and to just respect the area of control of a short-ranged mage.

Annie could definitely do with a small nerf to her AP ratios [10% nerf], but really doesn't need to be changed into another

The only problem I have with her is the little to no indication of her ultimate, maybe a 0.25 second increase in cast time, and a more visible and distinguishable animation.

ReazaleAug 27, 20152 votes

And while they are doing it , maybe at that delay , distinguishable animation to every single mobility skill in game , how can i know where they are going/if they are going if all that mobility is instant? i can never prepare, i must always react and be on the defensive...

Blade of JusticAug 26, 201519 votes

Pink spear the wards with CC.

AutoreactiveCD4Aug 26, 201515 votes

I don't see anything about % max hp true damage in there. Not sure I can trust you on this one.

IcyPepperAug 26, 20159 votes

Pink spear the wards with %max hp true CC.

TaarkiAug 27, 20156 votes

Just use a Lee Sin ult to kick the ward into your nexus, causing instant death to your whole team.

MeesterMooAug 27, 20153 votes

Because I'm Lee Sin, the Blind Monk.

LuggAug 26, 201516 votes

Yeah, dodging point and click abilities is super easy.

SwapShadowsAug 26, 201599 votes

{quoted}

Yeah, dodging point and click abilities is super easy.

It's a joke doofus

LuggAug 26, 201516 votes

I know it was, just being sarcastic :D

maikokkAug 26, 201542 votes

you suck at sarcasm

LuggAug 26, 201510 votes

Wow, it's amazing how dense some people are.

ElJanitorFrankAug 26, 201522 votes

The irony is strong.

LuggAug 26, 20157 votes

I guess you won't get this either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAY27NU1Jog

ElJanitorFrankAug 27, 20158 votes

I get it.

I don't get how it's relevant.

LuggAug 27, 20153 votes

Sigh

VardenSaladAug 27, 201510 votes

This whole thing was so hard to read.

You're trying to save face so bad... FailFish

OyddAWqJ5rAug 27, 201510 votes

It gets even worse and more lame with every response lmao.

WestonbirtAug 27, 20152 votes

Someone, ban this man for his own good.

K54Aug 27, 201510 votes

It actually is, I just summoner 4 when I see the enemy's cursor hovering over me #duh

LuggAug 27, 20156 votes

Finally, someone who gets it.

I was starting to lose my faith in humanity with the immense number of idiotic responses I was getting.

HeptapodAug 27, 201511 votes

Someone's really mad.

manbearswineAug 26, 20159 votes

Just win wall it or go untargetable.

There's a reason annie is one of the few immobile mages that work,and that's because you can't "hurr durr ez mobility ez outplay" her.

The problem isn't annie,the problem are hyper mobile bullshits,you nerf them and annie will fall off due to her inferior range compared to that of immobile mages.

Only Play DariusAug 26, 201511 votes

You realize Annie hardcore shits on Yasuo in lane?

"Windwall it" lol

CarryAug 26, 20159 votes

{quoted} There's a reason annie is one of the few immobile mages that work,and that's because you can't "hurr durr ez mobility ez outplay" her.

Few immobile mages that work? Of the top 20 winrate mids atm, 19 of those are mages and the only ones with dashes or blinks are Ahri, Lissandra, and TF's ultimate, which can't really be used as a mobility tool in combat.

I know the boards love to circlejerk the same thing for 2 years and turn a blind eye to the reality around them, but this isn't an assassin meta. Immobile mages are strong.

ShadowParkerAug 26, 20153 votes

^That's a good one.

Jeanne fan clubAug 27, 20152 votes

Viktor is pretty popular, along with azir. One of the two are guaranteed in an LCS game. Azir does have the dash to soldier thing though.

AMYS GRAVEAug 27, 20153 votes

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Middle

I would argue that MS counts as mobility which means top 20 winrate mids with mobility are: kennen, ahri, talon, TF, lulu, lissandra, zilean.

you missed talon with his blink but otherwise i was surprised at how many comparatively immobile champions topped that list.

The mobile mids are popular but often don't win as much as the immobile ones. Interesting.

revliledpembrokeAug 27, 20153 votes

Of course. What's their pick rate? Who plays the immobile mids versus who plays the mobile ones? It's probably a case of people picking the mobile ones for frelo and then sucking against someone who mains an immobile and can deal with their bullshit. Like once when I had a Zed complain about my stun. I was . Apparently, one conditional, skillshot reliant stun is op guys. Never knew.

AMYS GRAVEAug 27, 20154 votes

What's their pick rate?

Rates are in the link to champion.gg

Who plays the immobile mids versus who plays the mobile ones?

which lists statistics for plat+ ranked accounts.

Haha, yeah brand is fun. Feel the burn.

KarKzzAug 26, 20157 votes

It's alway nice to have some counter to mobility.

stealthfox94Aug 26, 20153 votes

Immobile mages can definitely work it's by no means a dead class like some of the idiots on this forum think.

FantasySniperAug 27, 20152 votes

The AoE stun + damage is pretty indiscriminate and as much a problem - if not more - for people who are less mobile because they can't avoid her range as well.

Nightcrow TeoAug 26, 20154 votes

Easy, change annie's q into skillshot. Won't be a problem then

argonianbeastAug 26, 20154 votes

If Annie's q were a skill shot she'd be terrible. her farming phase is dependent on her being able to kill minions with it, if it hits the first character it hits instead of a targeted character that's a major nerf. she has a tiny ass range I don't know how you guys can complain so much about her, if she doesn't burn flash to all-in on you or you don't make the stupid mistake of walking into her she's easy to deal with, and she can't do anything really strong until 6 anyways so just zoning her until then and backing up is easy