In case anyone hasn't noticed
Everyone thinks vayne is op. Everyone thinks devourer is op You know what these have in common? Blade of the ruined king.
Everyone thinks vayne is op. Everyone thinks devourer is op You know what these have in common? Blade of the ruined king.
Facts? ON LOL BOARDS? UNACCEPTABLE!
ILLUMINATI!
Bork is broken, but people learn how to pretend it isn't.
Unfortunately it's a necessary evil, sorta like Triforce and Muramana.
The champions who make the best use of the items, are only good because those items are so strong on them.
It's the only reason Aatrox can be a devourer jungler. If they nerf BoRK I won't have a devourer jungler that's fun... :(
Well, they could always make BotRK work better on tanks and worse on squishies. Make its %hp damage be %bonus hp damage instead. Basically make it the AD tank shredder it was supposed to be instead of a generalistic AD/AS/LS buy.
Trinity is good because its costly, and Muramana is powerful because few get good results from it as it is. BotRK is neither.
Oh I like that. Bonus HPS and they can up it to 10% or 12% to keep its numbers the same vs Tanks without hurting squishies.
This does not fix the issue with Devourer and on hit champs like Yi and Vi (just freaking make it a ghost hit every 3 attack and be done with it)
Already made this realization.
Already got downvoted.
People just don't have a brain anymore, I swear.
Same. I posted that it deals 400 bonus damage against a 5000 health Sejuani. "but armor" it's still 400 damage worth of gold or 14400. "but current health". At 10% HP BotRK is 40 AD worth to a 5000 health Sejuani. 160 bonus damage against a 2000 HP ADC. "but armor" "but armor". ARE FUCKING BASIC ATTACKS NOT AFFECTED BY ARMOR? THE GOLD RATIOS STAY THE SAME! BotRK is fucking ridiculously gold effcient. And you heal for the Ruined King damage dealt!
It's effective no matter what amount of health you have. I see myself dealing like 20 extra damage to minions. OMG ELISE OP 8% CURRENT HEALTH NERFED TO 4%! BotRK deals that every attack.
Well yeah, and for ADC's that use it, you get the added bonus of self-peel from melee or far stronger chasing potential to feed yourself. It's what makes Vayne such a pain in the ass - if you ever need to back out of a fight with her, there's not a thing you can do about it because she's already got bonus MS towards you and she just stole more of yours.
Blade is broken, but people have kinda accepted it and don't seem to care much anymore. It doesn't seem like its ever going to get nerfed, in fact they buffed it recently.
I think botrk's synergy with other items is what makes it so strong. On it's own, it's an ok item, but added with other on hit items makes it incredibly strong.
No it's one of the strongest one item powerspikes besides triforce. You can build it on bruisers to trade well in lane and deal relevant damage all game long. It was often built on shyvana and udyr jungle even when they went cinderhulk. It turns vayne into a weak champion to a dangerous opponent. The active lets melee champions stick to their targets, helps assasins like zed, and helps carries kite. The %hp damage is great for any situation, and the combination of attack speed, lifesteal and ad in one items means it's always a good buy. I'm not saying bork needs to be nerfed, but it's silly to say that it needs other items to scale or that it wasn't good before sated devourer came out. Compared to say infinity edge, you can outrade most of the time, and all in better unless the enemy gets very lucky with crits. Compared to wit's end, which is supposed to be the on hit champion alternative, bork is vastly superior, because it does more damage, provides sustain, and most importantly, provides a slow. You say bork is a synergistic item, but compared to crit builds which don't work at all until infinity edge is combined with another crit item, and don't outscale until another big ad item is built, bork really doesn't need other items.
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Egg Zac Lee.
Exactly.
AKA You're completely right.
Well done! You've earned two chocolate chip cookies!
I'd say a snickerdoodle and a lemon bar
bork is not broken, that thing is flat out overpowered.
+1. I've gotten downvoted every time I bring up how dumb powerful bork is.
Items that don't have cooldowns on offensive passives must be tough to balance. Nashor's Tooth only works on a small number of champs and isn't nearly as significant a power spike purchase compared to AD champs getting BotRK.
Bork will likely get changed with the marksmen update.
At least I hope so.
Bork will likely get changed with the marksmen update.
At least I hope so.
Me too. But its frustrating because it wasn't originally planned, or designed, to be a marksman item. It was suppose to be an item to help dueling bruisers out, like Shyv and Trundle. But that reality was lost the instant the item was released.
RIot: K, let's slap Botrk passive onto a champ then.
Remember when Blade of the Ruined King got a random buff recently?
Ruined King is cancer and should have been deleted a long time ago...it is far more toxic than DFG ever was.
Annoying thimg is that for some up champs, botrk is almost core. I always buy it on teemo. Teemo is lacking after the rework.
bortk on vayne is better than on any other adc . devourer on vayne is better than on any other adc. Vayne is just a better adc.
Vayne can take out an entire team by herself. Like why even bother playing another adc?
Shocker, isnt it?
Do you know who else uses Devourer and BTORK?
0-0 wow, arent these some of the champs people complain about...wait...
<--- He uses both too...
BTORK OP CONFIRMED
Shocker, isnt it? Do you know who else uses Devourer and BTORK?
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0-0 wow, arent these some of the champs people complain about...wait...
<--- He uses both too... BTORK OP CONFIRMED
Almost no one complains about Aatrox or Shen, and some of those champions actually do have toxic kits.
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Almost no one complains about Aatrox or Shen, and some of those champions actually do have toxic kits.
A sated Aatrox is a close to unstoppable force with his heal and extra damage, and shen is just a gimic due to the fact that it does take a long time to get sated due to his low clear times, but when sated his damage gets crazy and can almost duel anyone.
A sated Aatrox is a close to unstoppable force with his heal and extra damage, and shen is just a gimic due to the fact that it does take a long time to get sated due to his low clear times, but when sated his damage gets crazy and can almost duel anyone.
Aatrox had a bug for a while that prevented him from abusing Devourer, not sure if they fixed it or not. As for Shen, that just shows that almost anyone can abuse Devourer.
if you have a problem with aatrox then you must not know what a stun is..
if you have a problem with aatrox then you must not know what a stun is..
personally i have never had a problem with him, but i have seen so many people die to him not knowing how to counter. And not everyone has a stun
if, by the end of champ select your team doesnt have a single stun or kcockup, then your team are complete idiots and you would probably have lost anyway.
if, by the end of champ select your team doesnt have a single stun or kcockup, then your team are complete idiots and you would probably have lost anyway.
im sure you are fun ingame XD
The enemy mid got a Morellinomicon and I was useless whenever they were around.
Yeah, Naz has a point. Aatrox has been one of those sated overlords, but unlike the others he actually has a pretty lousy early-game in the jungle.
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Almost no one complains about Aatrox or Shen, and some of those champions actually do have toxic kits.
Well, yes, teemo has a toxic kit. Literally.
DOesn't that make attackspeed broken?
Yep. DefinATELY ATTACK SPEED.
put it on kalista gg
replace it with madred's bloodrazor and we're gud
BotRK is overtuned on basic attack centric champions because it needs to be a viable alternative on AD Casters to beat HP stacking. It's basically the opposite of Last Whisper.
I don't know why they didn't just keep Madred's Bloodrazor.
You know what these should have in common? Being disabled
A broken item always bought on champions or with a second item that can use it to it's absolute bullcrap level doesn't make the second part any less broken. Now I'll agree with you that botrk is stupid good. like family guy stupid. That doesn't really take away the fact vayne still has BS levels of self peel and %max health true damage. or Sated increases all on hit effects by %50. I mean what other item or kit has that much of a power spike?
I wish there was a way for the majority of the community to just disable op Shit with a vote
Why the hell does vayne get to go invisible too. You know how much more kill able vayne would be if she couldn't go invisible.
In case anyone hasn't noticed, it's also the only thing keeping
on the cusp of viable.
so many devourers used in world so far
so, soo many..
Bookmarked as the day someone else actually noticed this.