What if Kha'Zix's Taste Their Fear was given the Garen passive treatment?

YumaS2Astral··36 votes·2,056 views

"At level 11 or above, towers no longer count as allies for the purposes of denying isolation."

I also had another idea. What if the isolation radius decreased with levels? It could start with 500 at level 1 and go down to 300 at level 18. Just an example. Or starting with 500, decreasing to 450/400/350 at levels 6/11/16.

This could allow him to work sorta like a late game assassin.

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Hyrum Graff15 votes

I think we should wait to see how the AD itemization changes play out. You can't just look at these changes in isolation.

A Superb Villain12 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hyrum Graff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cTNsMUeE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-09-17T22:05:55.727+0000)

I think we should wait to see how the AD itemization changes play out. You can't just look at these changes in isolation.

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YumaS2Astral1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hyrum Graff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cTNsMUeE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-09-17T22:05:55.727+0000)

I think we should wait to see how the AD itemization changes play out. You can't just look at these changes in isolation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJY8jTIfXSE

RespectPlus1 votes

i saw what you did there

Mirage Seraph5 votes

The recent changes to his Isolation range honestly made it pretty achievable to Isolate the champs you want, especially when you run Trailblazer/Hydra.

As for turrets, honestly I'm fine with them acting as allies for his passive. They're meant to be protection, as much as I'd LOVE Kha buffs, I'm not too big on making turrets worse than they already are.

If anything, they should do something with his W reducing Isolation Range on targets hit or giving his evolved ult more incentive (... preferably the latter, I think evolved R is incredibly underrated)

YumaS2Astral3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mirage Seraph,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cTNsMUeE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-09-17T20:33:39.189+0000)

The recent changes to his Isolation range honestly made it pretty achievable to Isolate the champs you want, especially when you run Trailblazer/Hydra.

As for turrets, honestly I'm fine with them acting as allies for his passive. They're meant to be protection, as much as I'd LOVE Kha buffs, I'm not too big on making turrets worse than they already are.

If anything, they should do something with his W reducing Isolation Range on targets hit or giving his evolved ult more incentive (... preferably the latter, I think evolved R is incredibly underrated)

The "they're meant to be protection" statement contradicts with the other statement that "Early game, turrets are there to protect you. Late game, you are there to protect the turrets" - That's why I suggested this change.

Mirage Seraph2 votes

Hm.. I suppose under that mindset it'd be fine, but I don't think it'd solve his Isolation's inherent problems of making him absolutely useless in a teamfight. Seeking other ways to force isolation that don't rely on his enemies being complete idiots would be a better alternative in my opinion.

Also I messed up earlier, when I said "latter", I meant the former.

Sincarnation2 votes

Personally I would like that change as well as making his evolved R on an ammo system

A Superb Villain1 votes

I just feel like there need to be changes made to Isolation. Currently, Kha'Zix, at least a well fed one, is a god when he catches people alone, but hits like a wet noodle the minute anything outside of jungle creeps get too close to his target.

Isolation works very well when given the opportunity to capitalize on enemies out of position, but it just doesn't feel satisfying to rely on their stupid mistakes rather than your own skill.

RespectPlus1 votes

i think taste their fear's dmg to non-isolated targets should be increased... its really low

But Im Nunu1 votes

I don't think it should. I think the whole point of kha'zix and his passive is so that he is really strong when the target is isolated and not so much when they're together. He is **the **pick champ.

Budupops1 votes

QQ

Fowus1 votes

FUCKIN GENIUS

Only Play Darius1 votes

{quoted}

This could allow him to work sorta like a late game assassin.

point-and-click 300% bonus AD ratio on a 3 second cooldown (assuming no CDR, which we all know he builds)

"But he isn't a late game assassin"

YumaS2Astral1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cTNsMUeE,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2015-09-18T05:56:01.006+0000)

point-and-click 300% bonus AD ratio on a 3 second cooldown (assuming no CDR, which we all know he builds)

"But he isn't a late game assassin"

He could be a late game assassin, but the way that isolation works prevents him from being good late game.

FastAsHeck1 votes

i think that his q should have a longer cooldown and higher damage, because most assassins use their skills once when bursting but kha has to be balanced around a point-click nuke with low cooldown. what do you think?

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