Tresh currently at 36% play rate

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cTJWxvMk,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-21T22:01:42.291+0000)

you think every champ is toxic, cancer, op m, broken etc... that is all your post are

I feel honored by your stalking.

This is true, but compared to other "overloaded" champions I don't think Thresh is actually an issue. Yes his kit has a lot of flexibility, but it gives up a lot in return for that. On top of that a lot of elements of his kit are very situational. Unlike a lot of other champions that have been overloaded he actually had pretty big conditionals on when he can use different parts of his kit, so while he can do everything, he can only do a few of those things with each kit rotation. On top of that he is quite CD limited.

He is (IMO) a really good example of proficient at all, master of none. His kit being overloaded isn't an issue because while it can do most things, it can only do a few of them at a time, he isn't the best at any of those things, and it is all heavily gated behind real CDs.

So while he is most certainly overloaded, I think it is balanced.

He just happens to have a really big playerbase because he is fun to play, can do really sick plays, and is the highest skill ceiling support. Plus Madlife made him insanely popular, just like back when he played Blitzcrank.

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cTJWxvMk,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-01-21T22:08:14.550+0000)

http://champion.gg/champion/Thresh

has a 49.59% win rate for 18th out of supports

he has a 28.66% play rate

he has the lowest base armor in game which does not scale per level the only way he gets armor is from souls he collects and armor he builds

they already nerfed him alot...

he has a great utility in his kit but none of his abilities are over loaded with damage or cdr. and he cant be the only tank on/for a team comp because of how his armor scales.

Champion.gg is not a good source rofl. op.gg lists him at 32%. Went down from 36%

After 7 years, I used to think people would realize that win rates have very little correlation with their strength, but again and again, the "Only has a X% winrate" argument keeps popping up.

*Sigh *