Tristana just killed me from full in 1.32 seconds.

Dasdi96·Dec 4, 2017·7 votes·459 views

So when are we getting rid of marksman burst? Even an assassin can't kill me this fast.

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420 gramsDec 4, 20179 votes

You picked Ahri support, you built full ap with no armor, you finished the game 4/16, Tristana built full damage including crit, and Tristana finished 12/5.

I don't think marksman being strong was the problem here

AhrisDec 4, 20174 votes

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You picked Ahri support, you built full ap with no armor, you finished the game 4/16, Tristana built full damage including crit, and Tristana finished 12/5.

I don't think marksman being strong was the problem here

If a marksman can kill with just autos in 1.3 second, even if fed it is clearly unfair.

Ahri was nerfed for doing something similar but actually from like 350 range rather than 700 range.

Yaśuo MainDec 4, 20172 votes

HAHAHA Really? As an Ahri player I'd imagine you would actually see what's going on but guess not.

Ahri went full AP no armor so she is squishy as hell, meanwhile trist got 12 kills and built full damage (lets just say glass cannon) with crit and apparently had item 3031 item 3087

Since Ahri fed and ended with 4/16 they were obviously behind trist by atleast 1-3 levels, tack on the fact that ahri has NO ARMOR and that Trist Is FED, and has full damage with crit. its fair game. And I can't help but notice that you're trying to make this seem unfair by bringing up Ahri being nerfed for the same thing for doing it at around 350 range. Completely irrelevant to this case and honestly just makes me cringe for other reasons.

Edit: And to emphasize that, Ahri was support and she fed so I'd imagine she is insanely behind.

AhrisDec 4, 20172 votes

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HAHAHA Really? As an Ahri player I'd imagine you would actually see what's going on but guess not.

Ahri went full AP no armor so she is squishy as hell, meanwhile trist got 12 kills and built full damage (lets just say glass cannon) with crit and apparently had

Since Ahri fed and ended with 4/16 they were obviously behind trist by atleast 1-3 levels, tack on the fact that ahri has NO ARMOR and that Trist Is FED, and has full damage with crit. its fair game. And I can't help but notice that you're trying to make this seem unfair by bringing up Ahri being nerfed for the same thing for doing it at around 350 range. Completely irrelevant to this case and honestly just makes me cringe for other reasons.

Edit: And to emphasize that, Ahri was support and she fed so I'd imagine she is insanely behind.

I see what is going on, and I know it isnt fair for a right clicking champ that can auto from like 700 range to have that much damage as right clicking requires no skill

ZT XperimentorDec 11, 20171 votes

Armor isn't as useful as you think it is; take a look at this, twitch who was building critical chance did more damage than the zed stacking armor penetration. Despite having an omen and thornmail, still lost the majority of my health as an off tank in a few seconds.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/866242507560938373/300353EBCAFBAAD640EEDC6704852D7ADC7E96FB/

Things like these are why most people are just building damage, regardless of champion; durability is nonexistent unless you get stupidly fed.

ModWulf HelhammerDec 4, 20175 votes

How farmed/fed was the tristana?
How behind were you compared to her?
What stage of the game was it?
Who were you playing?

Dasdi96Dec 4, 20171 votes

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How farmed/fed was the tristana?

How behind were you compared to her?

What stage of the game was it?

Who were you playing?

All she had was item 1419 item 3031 item 3087

ModWulf HelhammerDec 4, 20173 votes

And the other questions?

Bronze 6 YasuoDec 4, 20176 votes

Doesn't matter how fed she is or what stage of the game.

She's ranged and has 2 disengages and one of them is a mobility spell.

She shouldn't be able to kill someone in 1.3 seconds. It's just unbalanced.

King JarvanDec 4, 20172 votes

Agreed.

ModWulf HelhammerDec 4, 20174 votes

So you're saying that at 6 items, a late game carry shouldn't be able to easily kill someone else squishy?

Is that really how warped your idea of game balance is?

EDIT: Fixed a word. Thank you Meowwow7

meowwow7Dec 4, 20172 votes

adcs are used to melt tanks which are designed to take alot more damage than other classes you put another squishy against the high damage dealer you think it's going to last longer than the tank?

ModWulf HelhammerDec 4, 20172 votes

Sorry, that should've said " a late game carry shouldn't be able to...".

My bad.

meowwow7Dec 4, 20173 votes

fine i should expect to live from 5 crits from a 300 ad champ with item 3031 when my current hp at the time was 708 and i only had 50 armor

ModWulf HelhammerDec 4, 20172 votes

I'm agreeing with you. I was repeating what Bronze 6 was saying, in order to point out the absurdity of his point.