How do you counter Bard...

Taliyah Rocks··1 votes·1,235 views

Seriously, how do you counter Bard's weaknesses when you play him? Despite being the champion i've played the most with, i'm having a hard time playing around some of his inherent weaknesses. When he's behind he has a hard time catching up, and when he's winning, he doesn't perform that great either.

  1. His chimes requires you to roam, problem is, when you're behind, you can't exactly go in their jungle to collect them, and without them, you scale even less.

  2. His Q has a weird behavior. Sometimes I'll throw it in a group of three minions, the beam avoids two of them and hits a champion behind. Sometimes the beam will seemingly curve and hit a minion on the side. I still can't figure it's behavior, it doesn't seem to have priority targets, yet when enemies are grouped, the second enemy hit seems random.

  3. Cooldown reduction is ''weak'' on him. I have more success when i don't actively seek to itemize towards the CDR cap. Unlike most supports where hitting the CDR cap is mandatory, on Bard it's just a bonus. Sure it's not useless, it's just that beside his Q and W, CDR is not a strong stat for his E and R. You won't be spamming those spells. Sure it's handy to have those spells off cooldown sooner, but chances are you're better off using a better item even if it means skipping CDR. Also his passive, which is a huge part of his utility, doesn't benefit from the stat.

  4. Bard is the ONLY champ i max R last. One point at six, and then it's Q>W>E>R or Q>E>W>R. It's almost a waste to put a point in there just to shave a few seconds off of an ult you won't be using on cooldown.

  5. His squishiness. Despite countless baiting potential, Bard is squishier than some adc, while having a shorter range than them. It makes it dangerous to poke with him. If their jungler or mid can insta-gib me, i'm better off not roaming outside my side's jungle at all. It sucks to know i can't help my midlane at all because if i come close i'll get one-shot by an Annie.

It seems that the biggest challenge when playing Bard, is to play around his massive weaknesses.

I'm somewhat hoping experimented Bard players can help me have a better time when playing the league's most fun champ.

7 Comments

InfinitexMortal1 votes

To counter a bard you must sing a better song than him...

THE BEST TROLLER1 votes

item 3111 item 2301 item 3078 item 3102 item 3222 item 3143 ---------------item 3158 item 2301 item 3190 item 3102 item 3222 item 3143

Taliyah Rocks1 votes

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item 3111 item 2301 item 3078 item 3102 item 3222 item 3143 ---------------item 3158 item 2301 item 3190 item 3102 item 3222 item 3143

I never thought if Trinity Force on Bard, but yeah none of the stats are wasted on him, i'll have to try that. I'll try that build but i might replace Randuin with Deadman's Plate for the extra roaming potential.

DontChaseBard1 votes

I like Iceborn Gauntlet more on him. gives you the extra slows for running people down for your teammates after using tunnels or Q's. still gives 20% CD and is more defensive. Trinity is too expensive and greedy for a support to build.

DontChaseBard1 votes

I also have an experimental Carrylord Brad build. item 3158 item 2301 item 3100 item 3060 item 3143 item 3102 with item 3512 being something you can throw in instead of banshee's/randuins

warpenguin5551 votes

i honestly hate this answer, but it is actually to get better at Bard. Bard is literally a champion whos counters matter less and less the better you are at him. yeah i know its kind of a shitty answer but thats just Bard for ya.

Tips for chimes though. dont go into the enemy jungle to get them until you have item 3092 and can spot the enemy jungler out if hes there

zlumpy1 votes

I think bard is very dependant on his enemy team comp to determine a just ok game to a godmode bard game.

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