In every single one of my games, nobody has 70+ CS at 10 minutes- and it never was like this. People are stretching out to have about 30-40 CS at the 10 minute mark, which is insanely poor for gold. This has been the case ever since DQ has been around, literally nobody knows how to CS anymore. Is anybody else experiencing this?
Dynikus4 votesman, I feel like I'm playing horribly if I'm under 70 cs at 10 minutes. I think the problem is people just don't understand how important cs is. It's why there are so many threads where people ask why they didn't get an S when they're at like 4 cs/m.
Subject 51 votesman, I feel like I'm playing horribly if I'm under 70 cs at 10 minutes. I think the problem is people just don't understand how important cs is. It's why there are so many threads where people ask why they didn't get an S when they're at like 4 cs/m.
It is so much gold that is wasted if a person has around 40-50 CS, that is literally an entire component of an item- which is a great power spike. I don't even need to try and contest the enemy laners if I see that they are CSing so bad, because I just know that I will be so much more relevant without risking a death.
it be lìke that1 votesHonestly, i blame the lack of educated tutorials, the tutorials are not only skippable but cover the bare bones minimum of the game.
NO ONE knows how to leash when leveling, its a nightmare. the cs is insanely low. They don't really specify the differences in roles and where the meta sends each champion.
All of these things should be taunt instead of "dont stand in front of the tower when you have no minions"
FioraWillCarry1 votes[{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cKOAE3E8,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2016-08-09T03:25:08.474+0000)
Honestly, i blame the lack of educated tutorials, the tutorials are not only skippable but cover the bare bones minimum of the game.
NO ONE knows how to leash when leveling, its a nightmare. the cs is insanely low. They don't really specify the differences in roles and where the meta sends each champion.
All of these things should be taunt instead of "dont stand in front of the tower when you have no minions"
Bad idea. I remember when I started playing this game. A friend introduce me and I actually lost interest because there was too much shit to learn. Learning the basics was like studying for an exam. It wasn't until a year later another friend came over and I watched him play, did I started understanding this game. The tutorial should be dog shit simple. League is a really complicated game.
Venomar1 votesThen why can't we have gated tutorials where once you hit lvl 10-15-20-25-30 on your account, respectively. The game starts to introduce more and more complex mechanics.
FioraWillCarry1 votesThen why can't we have gated tutorials where once you hit lvl 10-15-20-25-30 on your account, respectively. The game starts to introduce more and more complex mechanics.
Not a bad idea.
BlueBilberry1 votesThen why can't we have gated tutorials where once you hit lvl 10-15-20-25-30 on your account, respectively. The game starts to introduce more and more complex mechanics.
It's not just a matter of tutorials - it's a case of easy access to information relating to how one is supposed to play the game. A lot of the stuff out there is either out of date, worded badly if in text form or presented in really poor fan-made videos.
Wînter Fox4 votesWhy cs when you can have pointless fights all game
Demon King Maou2 votesIts easy to cs nowdays HOWEVER its even easier to kill just people for the big 300 G or higher depending on bounty but yeah I agree you don't really see people with over 50+ cs at 10
BlueBilberry1 votes[{quoted}](name=Demon King Maou,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cKOAE3E8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-09T02:07:29.656+0000)
Its easy to cs nowdays HOWEVER its even easier to kill just people for the big 300 G or higher depending on bounty but yeah I agree you don't really see people with over 50+ cs at 10
Except if you are a support - nudge, nudge.
Only Play Darius2 votesI would make the argument that people are getting camped harder because of DQ which is causing them to forfeit more CS.
Athenes Lulu2 votesI have never seen any of this happening and I've been living in gold/silver for most of my life.
Heck, even silver and bronze players have this much CS. You must have the best of luck or something.
FioraWillCarry1 votes[{quoted}](name=Cancerous Lulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cKOAE3E8,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-08-09T05:58:26.284+0000)
I have never seen any of this happening and I've been living in gold/silver for most of my life.
Heck, even silver and bronze players have this much CS. You must have the best of luck or something.
People start CSing good around mid Bronze 1. Only in B5 and B4 do you really see players with terrible farm often. B3 is kind of a coin toss. B2 a little less so. When you hit Silver, good CSing is no longer enough to carry anymore.
Stalinium2 votesI think it has to do with how minion block seems to have changed recently. It feels exceptionally terrible right now, at least imo
Dreadlocks1 votesNo, but i did notice that quite a few ppl in plat position late game like they did in silver.
No flash no life1 votesI miss the days when 
procs from range attacks as well. The golden age of cs indeed, where ppl get full build by 30 minute mark without any kill.
it be lìke that1 votesIm silver 3 its my first season.
It makes me want to cry when i see people below 100 farm in 15 minutes. I don't understand it.
If you are getting demolished in lane with constant jungle harass then okay, understandable. Anything else is just "??????"
NotCounter1 votes...unless Yasuo didn't get banned
Vistha Kai1 votesWhen I have 180 CS at 20 minutes and it takes my ADC 10 more minutes to reach the same CS, I know I have a problem.
Swiftstrike41 votesI think it is just player priorities.
For example, I play 
and my priority is farming. I have a tendency to ignore trades and just farm under tower early.
My opponents frequently harass me but miss CS in doing so. I usually end of with similar to higher CS then them, most of the time in the first 15 minutes and then I begin to pull away.
Players appear to prioritize trading and early kills rather than just farming. This is definitely the case in Silver, but a lot of Gold players do this as well.
Maybe it is just from my perspective as a Nasus main, but I rarely play in a lane where my opponent and I trade CS. I actually think that is more effective against Nasus than trying to harass him, since typically my opponent can exert more map pressure early than I can.
If you watch Sirhcez's game (a diamond Nasus), he frequently receives way less harassment in laning than I do, because the players prioritize CS.