If Olaf didn't exist, would Mundo have been his replacement in Worlds?

CyberBalt··4 votes·819 views

Just wondering, since they seem to fill a very similar role. Both have a permaslow Q, are extremely tanky, and soften up the enemy team for the allied team to take out. My guess as to why Olaf is preferred is his ult -- the Mundo ult for survivability is probably deemed unnecessary, while Olaf's ult gives him a new, very powerful asset.

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Eedat3 votes

No. The point of Olaf is that he can't be CCed. They then partner him up with speed ups to make him an unstoppable bruiser. Mundo can't fill that same role.

ValyrianBlade2 votes

I think Olaf was popular at worlds because he's exceptional against a lot of the strong champions right now. Zyra support hates him. Syndra mid hates him. Ryze mid hates him. Most of the popular champions at worlds were squishy damage dealers that bring CC to keep themselves safe from fighters. Olaf wrecks that.

Ale non è male3 votes

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Zara support hates him. **Sandra ** mid hates him. Ryze mid hates him.

I was expecting RAZE after the first two mistakes. I'm triggered

ValyrianBlade1 votes

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I was expecting RAZE after the first two mistakes. I'm triggered

Holy crap wow.

I normally post on my computer, or at least on my phone (which doesn't autocorrect). I was using my girlfriend's phone for that post though and well... I guess that's what happens. I'll be more careful next time!

Ale non è male1 votes

Upvote for Ryze being renamed as RAZE after the next rework (because he'll have one for sure at some point ), so you'll spell correctly next time XD

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

I made a totally identical post in the past lol

CyberBalt1 votes

Lol. Sorry for the copy then :P

Craft Zeppelin1 votes

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Lol. Sorry for the copy then :P

Well, I guess one of the major reasons he is top pick compared to mundo...is his farm speed

Have you jungled as olaf with blue buff and cdr runes? Not only you look batshit retarded (even by mundo terms) by chucking your axe in the wall directly in front of you in every 2 seconds, the cleartime is just totally superior.

WaffleDealer1 votes

Olaf just has a very strong kit which you cannot say about Mundo, Olaf benefits from going low in the jungle (passive + w) which makes or breaks him. If you can utilize it well you can clear as fast or faster (slower isn't possible) than the enemy jungler. If you can't, you'll lose the speed.

The Q and E are very strong for dealing damage, one being a slow and the other being true damage.

The W and ult are a perfect combo to survive in any team fight, w gives a lot of lifesteal and the ult makes sure your heals won't get interrupted by a stun or something like that.

Mundo doesn't have all these strong things. No true damage, only minimum. You use your health as mana, which makes jungling pretty difficult in the early. W doesn't really help, if you get stunned even for a second in pro play you may be caught out way too hard to get out. Ult isn't instant as lifesteal is, this means he can still be bursted down very easily.

Erockandroll1 votes

Not likely. The real trick that the pro's use Olaf for is his combination Ragnarok, and Ghost. With those spells, Olaf is able to speed his way into the back line. (or more often flank them from the side) and Whale on what ever target he want's to, and you really can't peel him off because of the CC immunity.

Even thou both Olaf and Mundo are Juggernauts. (And can even both Jungle) They hold entirely different niches.

warpenguin5551 votes

Nope. All Mundo does is heal, Olaf can charge to the back line. Mundo cant do shit to get there because he's always cced

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

no because they will just cc mundo and kill him . the point of olaf is killing enemies before they kill him. mundo can't do that against any organized play because they can cc him and kite backwards. you can't do that with a 700 movespeed olaf.

Meep Man1 votes

Probably, their kits are pretty similar, wit Mundo's being more defensive than offensive

Swiftstrike41 votes

If Olaf didn't exist I bet you we would see WAY WAY more support Morgana and just a different jungler that combos well with her black shield.

He was mainly chosen because of CC immunity so he could secure and objective without being CC'd in the process or steal and objective. That's about it.

O Fallen Scholar1 votes

No. Mundo loses to CC. Olaf just goes in and murders anyone.

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