when are we going to see a revamp of summoner spells?

lolipopevelynn·Jun 7, 2015·2 votes·298 views

honestly, im getting tired of seeing every single game on the same laners. why does {{summoner:2}} even exist? is not only situational, but its just overshadowed by the 5 spells i mentioned earlier. is useless compared to flash that it might aswell not exist either. only a very select few champs get ghost. has been completely replaced by heal.

so i think we either need new summoner spells or the entire system needs to be revamped to where certain Summoner Spells doesnt completely overshadow others.

9 Comments

XinotineJun 7, 20152 votes

I think Barrier should be buffed, it should shield more than Heal heals and also give move speed. It should be "Heal for midlaners" as its not affected by Ignite and if midlaner takes Heal its AoE portion goes waste.

TL;DR: Barrier should shield for more than heal heals and also give movespeed, being viable defensive choice for midlaners.

I like Barrier against Kata thou, since Kat reduces healing and I need something to survive her all in at lvl 6 which she most likely will try.

Shroom JunkieJun 7, 20151 votes

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I think Barrier should be buffed, it should shield more than Heal heals and also give move speed. It should be "Heal for midlaners" as its not affected by Ignite and if midlaner takes Heal its AoE portion goes waste.

TL;DR: Barrier should shield for more than heal heals and also give movespeed, being viable defensive choice for midlaners.

I like Barrier against Kata thou, since Kat reduces healing and I need something to survive her all in at lvl 6 which she most likely will try.

Pretty sure Barrier does shield more.

XinotineJun 7, 20151 votes

Most likely yeah, I didn't check numbers, but imo it could shied even more than now (slightly) but maybe the most important difference to Heal is that Heal gives movespeed. Barrier should also give ms.

KãtãrinãJun 7, 20151 votes

{quoted}

I think Barrier should be buffed, it should shield more than Heal heals and also give move speed. It should be "Heal for midlaners" as its not affected by Ignite and if midlaner takes Heal its AoE portion goes waste.

TL;DR: Barrier should shield for more than heal heals and also give movespeed, being viable defensive choice for midlaners.

I like Barrier against Kata thou, since Kat reduces healing and I need something to survive her all in at lvl 6 which she most likely will try.

I rarley see barrier but barrier denies my ability to dive (Katarina main) but sometimes i bait your barrier then just kill you. Lol

Wiggle Dat ButtJun 7, 20151 votes

Flash will always be taken no matter what except for what seems to be the teleport smite top laners which I'm seeing fewer and fewer of. I personally feel like Heal is too big of a crutch. It is taken by mid laners who know they can't hold their lane without something to save their butt, and by ADC's with the same problem. I wish Heal was completely removed.

Shroom JunkieJun 7, 20151 votes

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Flash will always be taken no matter what except for what seems to be the teleport smite top laners which I'm seeing fewer and fewer of. I personally feel like Heal is too big of a crutch. It is taken by mid laners who know they can't hold their lane without something to save their butt, and by ADC's with the same problem. I wish Heal was completely removed.

I'm pretty sure heal heals for the same amount as ignite deals, but ignite halfs its effects, so its pretty counterable. If you don't want enemy ADC's or APC's healing, ignite them, and they only get half the heal(which I think is like 200), plus lose like 400 health by level 18.

Wiggle Dat ButtJun 7, 20151 votes

That's a good point for someone who doesn't know it, but even at 50% healing the heal still heals more than the ignite and is a crutch to save WHAT, in many situations, WOULD BE a kill. I just feel like it's basically a way for someone to "hold hands" with a crutch instead of handling their lane. I'm sure there are differing opinions out there.

SvddenlyJun 7, 20151 votes

So summoners that prevent kills should be removed?

summoner 21 summoner 1 summoner 3 summoner 4 summoner 7

lolipopevelynnJun 7, 20151 votes

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So summoners that prevent kills should be removed?

heal and barrier should never have existed to begin with.