The Eternal Jungle Changes

Penta Penguin·Jan 25, 2019·33 votes·12,943 views

Isn't anyone else getting tired of Jungle being changed like 3 times every season? Even small gold and xp changes will completely fuck up routes and optimal clears

15 Comments

Salvor HardınJan 25, 201922 votes

"This season we won't make big changes in the jungle, so we'll just nerf it." [sg-lulu]

hewhodoesnotcareJan 25, 20191 votes

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"This season we won't make big changes in the jungle, so we'll just nerf it." [sg-lulu]

5 or more times In every jungle update

AseraanJan 26, 20191 votes

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ahaahahahahh i feel off my chair this is halariaousXD OHHH that lulu face take my upvote

Jon MoxleyJan 25, 201916 votes

i miss the times when u could get lv.3 without having to clear 700 camps. But Riot thinks that junglers have too much pressure :) (totally NOT because people don't even know the existence of wards)

Meredith StoutJan 25, 20198 votes

Because balancing team want bronze people to keep playing. No, sorry iron people need to stay.

CdoreJan 25, 20195 votes

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i miss the times when u could get lv.3 without having to clear 700 camps. But Riot thinks that junglers have too much pressure :) (totally NOT because people don't even know the existence of wards)

Riot nerfed wards to only running for 90 seconds early game, and you dont get your second trinket ward until two and half minutes later. If you want to blame lack of vision, blame it on Riot.

AseraanJan 26, 20191 votes

I do blame it on riot cuz vision was nerfed cuz of lcs too. Soo long i say separate lcs and casual leage its so much not the same and should not run on the same balance philosophy.

ModCaptainMårvelousJan 26, 20195 votes

Been a problem since release and will forever be a problem unless Riot takes a hardline stance on pro or pug balance for it.

The reason we have crazy strong junglers who have such an impact is because of player outcry. Junglers used to be a secondary support role (Hence why early in League so many junglers were often just CC/tank bots who would carry through kit strength) and people hated not being able to farm/get items/etc. So Riot buffed that. And continued to buff it. Now you have junglers who not only get full build but also the impact of affecting almost every lane on the map. If you swing the pendulum back and reduce their gold, junglers will complain about the jungle "feeling less fun" because they don't get items.

This would be solved if Riot just took a stance but again, they want jungle to be "fun" for pug and pro play. A metric you will never succeed in.

AseraanJan 26, 20191 votes

I dont mind if they nerf the jungle HONESTLY but than pls do it right cuz right now this change affects anything that isnt a lee sin camellie and xin zao while we all know the nerf came because of them. Also if we take off some preshure from jungle can my teammates stop acting like im gona win the game alone so they can play like total goof go 2 11 and 1 8 in lane and asking me why i dont kill this why i dont gank that?

CØulrophobiaJan 25, 20193 votes

As someone who plays a lot of Shaco and needs that lv3 to gank this change hurts me a lot, and because Tiamat got nerfed it is even worse, however I have to say 2 things about this change: -It is not all that bad, level 2 junglers have become so important you know they will gank you. Thus warding mid river bush at 1:20 has become a norm for midlaners, which in turn helps me and allows me to adapt my clear, countergank and know the position of the enemy jungler at all times in the early game. -It will slow down junglers, that is a bad thing for me as someone who plays a lot of jungle, but I think that it is good for a game to slow down a bit, it might also help tank junglers that were slower to actualy get a bit meta.

On the other hand Shaco is hit by Tiamat nerf, ignite nerf, jungle exp nerf, crit item reverts, FUUUUUUU Rito for constantly shitting on my main.

kargishJan 26, 20191 votes

Hey man at least Rev3 confirmed that Shaco is on the tier 1 VGU list

AseraanJan 26, 20191 votes

Just lemme make it clear that no my teamamtes dont know they will get ganked. And again warding for them is useless i watcha lot of minimap and see a lot of time enemy jungler heading mid or top i ping till its on tilt and i see my laner still pushing and im like "Ye why, why should i honestly do my best while this guy is playing the dream of an assclown?"

It slows me down as a jungler yes DOES IT SLOWS DOWN THE ENMY ZED TALON THO WHOS GONA INVADE ME IN MY OWN JUGNLE WHILE IM LV 4 AND THEY ARE 6 ALREADY? Yes that happened was taking wolfs zed just came w q and ult walked away didnt even need his ult but he ulted me anyway...... Slowing down the game should not come to slow down 1 role and letting the others run mock cuz thats not how you balance something. Slow down the whole game or dont fuk it up even more.

hewhodoesnotcareJan 25, 20192 votes

Riot will never listen because we junglers don't stand up to what they do to us. We just accept it. I think it's time for us to reaay let our voices be heard.