Adaptive helm doesn't seem fair to me.

AR URF··3 votes·1,413 views

Mostly because there's a difference between damage over time and damage per second. For example Anivia Kennen DrMundo w and Fiddlesticks ults and other abilities would be examples of damage per second. As long as you're outside of the area of the ult or ability. You don't take damage. Brand Mordekaiser Teemo Malzahar are a few examples of champions having damage over time abilities. Meaning that it doesn't matter if you grab threshes lantern. The damage still lingers.

The reason why I feel that item 3194 helm is unfair is because I find it very frustrating that I can get countered so easily by that item when I'm playing Anivia for example, when that's the only defensive magic resist item that the enemy built. I can be sitting at 400 ap and be .5 items ahead of my laner. And his/her build can look something like item 3047 item 3194 item 3157. And because that laner has item 3194 helm. I'm countered. Vladimir is an example of a champion that is just ridiculous with that item.

So my solution is just to simply making that item like 10% effective for damage per second abilities. And 20% effective for damage over time abilities. That way champions that have to constantly be in range have a better shot at winning the duel.

Obviously player skill plays a huge role in winning match ups, but let's be real. Because of some point and click abilities like Mordekaiser ult vs say Fiddlesticks drain(w i think). Mordekaiser is usually going to come out on top because Fiddlesticks is already putting himself in danger by using his drain ability. Another example would be like Malzahar vs Katarina. If you put item 3194 on both of them. Malzahar is going to win because he just has to make sure to click his e. And Katarina has to throw herself in danger with her ult and take harassment all of laning phase.

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Moody P3 votes

Anivia has laughably low counterplay for anyone that doesn't have reach or mobility. Its a fair trade-off.

FireDrizzle2 votes

Why the fuck would Vllad build that over SV?

AR URF1 votes

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Why the fuck would Vllad build that over SV?

That's not the point I'm trying to make.

Marlusia2 votes

"Oh no, I cannot one shot my opponent because they build defensive items." RIOTS BALANCE TEAM: "KILL IT" summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

AR URF1 votes

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"Oh no, I cannot one shot my opponent because they build defensive items." RIOTS BALANCE TEAM: "KILL IT" summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11 summoner 11

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

I don't like one shotting or getting one shot unless I'm like super ahead of my opponents. That said, stop trying to twist this into something it's not. I'm not talking about burst. I'm talking about damage over time champions having an easier time than damage per second champions.

Literal IRL Tree2 votes

If a Vlad builds an adaptive helm he is trolling anyway. Glass cannon and 1 shot you works far better. Anivia is my main mage and I've never seen a problem forcing people to get a defensive item. That like playing Zed and making the same exact post for Zhonya being unfair to his ult LMAO

MordridtheBlack2 votes

why would I build Adaptive Helm on Malz when I can just easily not and build pure damage

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oh wait I already do that

ContDeCaterinca11 votes

At the same time adaptive reduces the DoT damage by 20% without a 2nd application of the same effect.

Meanwhile someone like Ryze has to hit you with a 2nd Q for the Adaptive Helmet effect to kick in.

So Brand, Morde, Malzahar suffer as well. It's just that the champions you mentioned suffer the most.

AR URF1 votes

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At the same time adaptive reduces the DoT damage by 20% without a 2nd application of the same effect.

Meanwhile someone like Ryze has to hit you with a 2nd Q for the Adaptive Helmet effect to kick in.

So Brand, Morde, Malzahar suffer as well. It's just that the champions you mentioned suffer the most.

Yep. That's why I think there should be some changes.

Daddy Ants1 votes

Keep it as it is.

It's suitable counter play to Malzahar, Anivia, Rumble, Fiddle, Brand etc.

The Avocado yo1 votes

Dirty Anivia players.

OtterlyLost1 votes

I feel like Adaptive Helm is a niche item that doesn't get built enough but is fine in its current iteration. Its fairer to me than say Thornmail. The enemy tank build thornmail; now you need MR, armor pen, and life steal not to get absolutely destroyed by the tank that you're intended to deal with. :/

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