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@Riot Hi, Master tier top laner here, these phage/cleaver/triforce changes need to stop now

AHeroNamedHawke·10/29/2015, 7:32:35 AM·10 votes·894 views

I wasn't aware these items were changed, just found out thanks to Hash, and I'm hoping I can get your attention by waving my badge around this time

If you'd like to stop by here, you can read my opinion on grevious wounds (which everyone ignored, not bitter) but that isn't the point of this thread

S5 was an insanely good season for fighters thanks to the juggernaut update, giving them some real items to choose from, rather than just slapping tank items on and trying to decide if Darius really needs that item 3078. The changes to item 3071 and item 3078 are both aimed at your AD castery carries, and I understand that, but instead of pulling power away from fighter items (PLEASE I JUST STARTED HAVING FUN), you should focus on adding more cool effects for ADCs to pick from. Your new items are interesting so far, and I don't see why you can't make some for AD casters rather than taking what we've got away

I've been maining Vlad for most of S5, and was maining Yasuo for S4 with how astoundingly bad fighters have been for most of that time, when all I want to do is play Darius. The game already has so few items to choose from, it can't hurt to add some more.

(Also there was something about Hydra doing true damage, pls link cuz I havent seen it)

Addendum: I totally forgot item 3044 in my rant, but part of the reason item 3211 was bad for a while was the lack of slot efficiency. Phage is already in a perfect spot for components and when you can buy it for the power spike, it doesn't need to be brought in earlier at the cost of said power spike.

10 Comments

Gorgannan10/29/2015, 8:18:00 AM2 votes

I'm not really sure what Tri changes you have a problem with. They're reducing the AD slightly and switching the AP for CDR, right?

Also, looking at some of the new items, I don't think that the bruisers WON'T benefit. They've got some AD spellvampy items that look like they'll be sweet for more damage oriented bruiser builds.

Voluug1310/29/2015, 10:31:47 AM1 votes

Everything of this. Riot doesnt need to sacrifice Bruiser itemization to give ADC casters ''new'' items. Making actual new items for them should be better in every case.

The JigSAW10/29/2015, 2:22:15 PM1 votes

So, basically you are maining two manaless champs who do devastating damage in two seasons. Now, you might actually have to think twice because perhaps one of those unfortunate mana using champions could, oh I don't know, damage your lifesteal/health regeneration rate a little bit? I'm sorry but I see no reason not to implement grievous wounds again. When Garen, a "fighter" by Riot's own system, can regenerate more health than anybody listed as a tank you need all the grievous you can get. Also, I just have to say... what do you have to complain about? Vlad's an excellent champion, but Yasuo is one of the most OP champions in the game and will be doubly so when those of us who have to actually use resources for our abilities will have the early game gutted beyond belief against a champion with 15 seconds of 50% bonus armor pen on use of his ultimate, doubled critical chance strikes on every basic attack (with a lousy 10% crit reduction as if that makes a difference if you crit every hit) a shield, a projectile blocker, and a 0.5 CD cast time on a dash through minions and champions.

I'm particularly disturbed a Master tier player can wave a badge around and get any changes they want. I suppose it is true, if you aren't pro or close to it Riot doesn't care about what you have to say. This isn't the game I remember from Season 3, and frankly maybe it is time to find a new one if this is the way of the future.

AHeroNamedHawke10/30/2015, 12:52:04 AM1 votes

@Meddler pls I don't want to wait another 2 seasons to play Darius, he just stopped being permabanned