PSA: Riots current matchmaking system enforces the meta, and playing outside the meta is bannable.

Paroe··4 votes·663 views

^ theres no option or even space in design for double jungle, duo top, roaming, dedicated counterjungle, etc.

Anyone playing any position that is not one of the 5 riot-designated positions is under threat of ban because riot must enforce the meta.

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Jorencice2 votes

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^ theres no option or even space in design for double jungle, duo top, roaming, dedicated counterjungle, etc.

Anyone playing any position that is not one of the 5 riot-designated positions is under threat of ban because riot must enforce the meta.

Because all of those arent for a serious mode like ranked.

Your expecting random people to not only go for something crazy like duo top.

But to then know how to stratigize around it and actually have a chance of winning.

If you want to play weird stuff get 5 of your freinds and make a team.

AstroLeague22 votes

This post is a pure joke. If you don't want to play 1 of 5 of the postions that are key to have then don't fucking play. Normals is for trolling. Ranked is for people who actually want to earn rewards. Now if you want to go in ranked and troll and get banned than kys league doesnt need anymore fucking tyler 1 fanbois who want to fuck up the game for everyone else

Paroe1 votes

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This post is a pure joke. If you don't want to play 1 of 5 of the postions that are key to have then don't fucking play. Normals is for trolling. Ranked is for people who actually want to earn rewards. Now if you want to go in ranked and troll and get banned than kys league doesnt need anymore fucking tyler 1 fanbois who want to fuck up the game for everyone else

And yet when someone reaches plat with 50+% winrate, you call them a troll despite them actively trying to win and winning with a positive winrate.

AstroLeague21 votes

50%? Lmao The fact that they are trying to win while trolling is stupid as fuck. Having no support and duo jungle makes the adc useless because the ADC is zoned out of so many cs and the jungler can camp bot and they can dive level 6+. If they wanted to try to win they would play the roles they are supposed to so they can climb and win. Show me the win rate of this "singed jungle" let me see there match history. All the red is prob the main reason they got banned

Primaquarius1 votes

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Chamuel851 votes

I think that his point is that you have to have a Support role filled. This is the very role that would disappear if you had a duo jungle. It is in reference to this recent even with a Singed Support who was actually just queueing Support/something and counter jungling as singed all game without staying near the adc.

Paroe1 votes

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I think that his point is that you have to have a Support role filled. This is the very role that would disappear if you had a duo jungle. It is in reference to this recent even with a Singed Support who was actually just queueing Support/something and counter jungling as singed all game without staying near the adc.

Indeed. You dont HAVE to have a support; theyre vestigial. Optional. Its certainly a very strong option, but its not the ONLY option and people who dont want to play it shouldnt be banned because riot wants to enforce their favorite meta. If someone communicates clearly that they are not support despite being placed as a support, then theres no egg on their face. because riot decided that theres only 5 positions.

the weeaboo1 votes

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I think that his point is that you have to have a Support role filled. This is the very role that would disappear if you had a duo jungle. It is in reference to this recent even with a Singed Support who was actually just queueing Support/something and counter jungling as singed all game without staying near the adc.

They released Ivern pretty recently for the support jungle role lol

Chamuel851 votes

I think Ivern is a supporting jungler. I think that he's designed to be the solo jungler in the jungle though. His playstyle as a jungler is more of a team support role. Like Nunu. It's a good point though. I wonder how Ivern would work with duo jungle.

Paroe1 votes

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I think Ivern is a supporting jungler. I think that he's designed to be the solo jungler in the jungle though. His playstyle as a jungler is more of a team support role. Like Nunu. It's a good point though. I wonder how Ivern would work with duo jungle.

He works fairly well, actually. But not as the duo part of the double jungle because you need to clear the camps properly in the enemy jungle; someone like singed or shyvana with actual good clear times is better for double jungle.

Paroe1 votes

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Uh, no. Roaming and counterjungling is the key to winning if you pull it off well enough. Those strats are far from off-meta, because they are done so frequently. Matter of fact, they are very nearly the opposite of off-meta, because metas are defined as acceptable paterns over a course of a set time period.

Double jungle is where you have two dedicated junglers. Duo top is where you have two dedicated top laners.
Roaming is where you have one dedicated camper (usually someone with strong CC who is effective with low gold and levels) Dedicated counterjungle is where you have two dedicated junglers, with one stealing enemy camps and harassing the enemy jungler.

They are very different from what happens in a standard game. the role and the act arent the same.

Primaquarius1 votes

Guess Im just deleting that, before Im downvoted to hell for it

Paroe1 votes

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Guess Im just deleting that, before Im downvoted to hell for it

Uhh yeah sorry lol. Its hard for a lot of people to understand that the role and the act are completely different things usually. they were all in the meta at one point - effective strategies all during their time - but they fell out of favor because the "get the marksman" fed comp was just so powerful.

NiamhNyx1 votes

You do realize they can not report you for playing the game off meta. 1 Top, 1 Jungle, 1 Mid, 1 Support, 1 Adc, that is just the Ideal strategy. You could put Adc and support mid if you want, and guess what? YOU CANT GET BANNED FOR IT! You can have a Midlane with a support and a solo bot, not banable.

Paroe1 votes

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You do realize they can not report you for playing the game off meta. 1 Top, 1 Jungle, 1 Mid, 1 Support, 1 Adc, that is just the Ideal strategy. You could put Adc and support mid if you want, and guess what? YOU CANT GET BANNED FOR IT! You can have a Midlane with a support and a solo bot, not banable.

Except this discussion has been spurred by a singed playing duo jungle in soloqueue being banned because the game forces you into one of 5 slots, of which only support is truly optional.

NiamhNyx1 votes

If they got banned it is because they tried to steal the jungler role instead. You know they can check pregame and post game chat too right?

Paroe1 votes

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If they got banned it is because they tried to steal the jungler role instead. You know they can check pregame and post game chat too right?

... lol We know for certain that he was double jungling, not stealing jungle; he didnt WANT to jungle. Specifically, if he was constantly 'stealing jungle' how do you explain a 50% winrate in platinum with a double jungle singed?

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Ok.....Yesterday, this wasn't a thing. Today, the board is littered with this type of thread. Did something major happen in the past 12 hours that I missed ? Every other thread now is about being banned for not playing the meta....(and something about Singed support ?)

Paroe1 votes

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Ok.....Yesterday, this wasn't a thing. Today, the board is littered with this type of thread. Did something major happen in the past 12 hours that I missed ? Every other thread now is about being banned for not playing the meta....(and something about Singed support ?)

2,000,000 mastery singed player was perma banned for playing duo-jungle, with the reason cited by riot being "he was placed as support but didnt support". Guy was banned, essentially, for not playing the meta.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

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2,000,000 mastery singed player was perma banned for playing duo-jungle, with the reason cited by riot being "he was placed as support but didnt support". Guy was banned, essentially, for not playing the meta.

Ah thx for the explain.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

But perma banned ? Wow I didn't know perma-banning for going off meta was seriously probable.

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