"ILLAOI IS BROKEN WTF RIOT NERF THAT SHIT OMG SO BROKEN WHY RIOT WHY MORE BROKEN AHH"

Tentakill Myself·Nov 24, 2015·31 votes·17,792 views

~Enemy Yasuo

96 Comments

OnanThaManNov 25, 20158 votes

http://cdn.funnyisms.com/fd99882b-28f0-476c-81b5-9cf3c9dab930.jpg

ChuckleBerryPiNov 25, 20157 votes

Just played against a SUPPORT Illoai. She went 9/1/6...

I think a few things could be done.

Change tentacle spawn times; perhaps they spawn less often &/or start at a later level. Make her tentacles unable to spawn on enemy towers or make it so the tower will target them. Tune down her base dmg; self-explanatory. Make her spirit ability break when you get too far away, but shorten the range.

I really like her concept, but it's a lot of tentacles to play around, especially in the early game; imagine teemo having 5 mushrooms before lvl 6...

JyoeruNov 26, 20152 votes

Except, tentacles are 100% avoidable, don't attack unless you're afflicted, and except for a W assault that's well placed, aren't as big a threat as people think. They take 2 hits to do away with. It's something annoying you have to manage, and I think that's part of the appeal with her: that she offers another routine to your lane.

What do you mean by making the spirit ability break at a shorter distance? Once they roam out of the AOE, they are afflicted, so the only thing shortening the distance does is neutralizes the damage value of the ability and nearly guarantees affliction. I've seen many people decide it's better to harass as a reply and they avoid a lot of the passive damage and getting afflicted.

She is indeed quite a bit OP, especially when she's running early game support. But I fear with the complicated playstyle they've added with her, or unique anyway, too many tweaks could = useless character. Not sure what they should do.

ShahamutNov 26, 20152 votes

I think people just need to learn how to play against her.... She hasnt even been out a week. I have not had a problem with her yet as an opponent.

ShadowAlphaManNov 27, 20155 votes

her tentacles are not 100% avoidable unless you want to waste a flash every time, the range on her tentacles are gigantic, and she doesn't even need to be alive for them to attack you, i got killed by a tentacle when Illaoi had been dead for twenty seconds and wouldn't re spawn for another twenty five, if she doesn't need to be alive to kill you, how is that not completely broken

BlackRoseNobleDec 15, 20151 votes

stop walking backwards and walk side to side. you should be moving at all times anyways. Playing against her is all about positioning, managing her tentacles and not running away. if you harass her when she spirit pulls, most illaoi's will back off because they dont utilize her q skill shot effectively.

MantarysNov 26, 20157 votes

Was playing LB mid and totally wrecking Ahri. Illaoi comes along and sends her stupid ripping out clone thing at me, so I run out of range. Then for some reason a tentacle spawns on my tower and I have dodge it. I kill it, then another one spawns and I have to dodge that. I kill that one and a third one smacks me right in the face. I lost ~10 cs everytime illaoi ganked me. I think it's ridiculous how many tentacles spawn off 1 ability, and how the tentacles can literally grow off MY tower without getting attacked. Aren't towers supposed to be safe areas?

Meep ManNov 26, 20151 votes

You protect towers, towers protect you. Thats how it works. Both usually dont happen at the same time. Also, they dont literally grow, they just grow. Also, tentacles are extremely easy to dodge.

Ty1oreNov 28, 20157 votes

I'm not sure who you are playing Maverick. But yes 1 tentacle are easy to dodge. But when she does her E While 3 other tentacles on the walls, and there is a tentacle on your turret you focus all your time dodging the tentacles while she just focuses on the turret while taking barely any damage because she's tanky AF... Balanced?? I think not.

Just vs her as Ahri , I won my lane. Tricked her plenty of times, I was fed, but she came back while being 0/4, and literally her tentacles doing all the damage while she's farming. and came back to 12/4

My point is that I understand that there are counters. But If she counters all AP mids because they are squishy... That is not balanced at all!

Stars ShaperNov 24, 20154 votes

Well, as morde Top she would delete my full shield plus some of my hp with a single Q.

Yes she is overtuned.

Eternal AbyssNov 26, 20152 votes

logged in to say this is true, went mord top today and got fuked up by illaoi, kept up with her until she hit lvl 6.... then stuff went downhill. Sure her tentacles are easy to dodge but can you dodge tentacles,cs, look for enemy ganks and trade with her i think not ! plz nerf

VelidestraNov 25, 20154 votes

the thing that bothered me while playing against her was probably the fact her tentacles would spawn ON my tower or behind it, and the tower wouldn't attack them. I had a hard time playing against her for this reason. It was near impossible to play safely with her in lane against me cause I could be standing next to my tower trying to farm and a tentacle would pop up on the tower behind it next to it and smack me around. Even Heimy's turrets get attacked be enemy towers if they are to close. It seemed to be a little unfair to have to lane against that.

ShahamutNov 26, 20152 votes

they only take two hits to kill... just kill them.

VelidestraNov 26, 20155 votes

i know they only take two hits.. thats not what i am saying. its annoying that they spawn ON my tower and the tower doesn't hit them, i get smacked around playing safe. tad bit brutal ?

MechyfoxNov 27, 20152 votes

OBJECTION! Let me point out the one problem I see here: tentacles dont attack by themselves, unless you get hit by Illaoi's W or by becoming a vessel after getting E'd by her. There's no way they would just "smack ya 'round" if, like you said, you play safe. Obviously you didnt play safe, you exposed yourself to her abilities. Work on that and you can lane more safer and more easily against her. Seriously, she's a juggernaut, she has no CC or gapclosers, her tentacles have a 1 second delay before their attack hits, you can even see where they will land. What's your excuse then?

Ty1oreNov 28, 20151 votes

You play Phoenix Wright don't you Hahaha! thumbs up

Ty1oreNov 28, 20154 votes

You play Phoenix Wright don't you Hahaha! thumbs up

But... OBJECTION Answer me this Mechyfox. So are you saying that it's balanced that she can

Harass you without being present
If you get hit by one ability you have major punishment. No league player is perfect, and riot is ask for perfection while laning I mean we aren't a Von Karma right? ;)
While you are being harass it's a easy lane for her because she doesn't have to dodge tentacles coming from the fucking walls.
She is very tanky
She has a crazy ass slow
She can turn around games while she's feeding.

From the evidence I have provided does she seemed balanced to you?

the ƒláshNov 24, 20153 votes

Mostly I'm just afraid of the ARAM potential.

ShadowAlphaManNov 27, 20152 votes

i just played against her in ARAM, it was the least fun I've ever had playing a game in my life, I was Braum, who I'm pretty good at and i went 1/16/32 i got knocked up whenever she used her E and died nearly instantly everytime without. exception. it doesnt matter if she doesn't have cc if her team does.

OrangutanguinNov 26, 20153 votes

I saw Illaoi 1v5 a whole team. She's broken.

ShahamutNov 26, 20152 votes

They obviously were grouped up, and didnt use any cc.

They probably also don't know how Illaoi works. Funny, she's a new champ.

Give it time. She is not broken.

EcchiOtakuTMNov 26, 20151 votes

She's weak her only redeeming quality is players dont respect her zone control and just stay still and let her attack, she has no cc or mobility all she has is a ploy on player's naiveness like with shaco.

She actually needs buffs once players actually understand her.

BringItBritneyNov 27, 20152 votes

no she needs to be nerfed just like darius

EcchiOtakuTMNov 27, 20151 votes

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no she needs to be nerfed just like darius

Actually I didn't mean to say buffs I meant to say she needs a balance of power change

She should be an AP/Magic damage champ but they need to lower her damage and give her a built in CC(Just increase her slow to 99% and give her another way to slow would do) and she would be able to consistently perform all throughout a game

The downside of this is her core theme is "Move or Die" and if she had built in heavy CC it would completely ruin her character

But she's weak in lane if you're smart and don't let her just get tentacles everywhere

She's powerful in clusterf- teamfights where alot of her free damage is availible for use

She's good in a siege comp cause she can harass anyone with her pull

But outside of that she's pretty weak losing vs her in a 1on1 just comes from not understand her kit or using a champ you know you have no business using vs (Like a udyr top who complains that illaoi is op when real top laners would destroy udyr as well)

LAKIGRNov 28, 20152 votes

Only thing I really think they need to change is the early game damage on that q it just clears waves so fast

EcchiOtakuTMNov 28, 20152 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/16saqRzt-riot-illaoi

I would like that, would allow them to tone down her damage and would allow her win rate to be better.

Frozen379Apr 2, 20161 votes

I can deal with darius, he's annoying, but at least I can deal with him.

This bitch? Nah, not happening, next time I'll see her if someone will refuse to ban her, if she comes to my lane again, I will just go afk, uninstall LoL and you can ban me permanently for it, I don't care.

EcchiOtakuTMApr 2, 20161 votes

Nice necro, and illaoi is still weak learn how to reposition and she's completely useless.

Her Q is dodgeable, W predictable and kitable and if you're melee just have to dodge the tentacle, her E dodgeable and slow, her passive you can knock down to 1 hp then when she tries to fight take it out, and her only power which is ulti walk away and it's useless. Not to mention you can still CC her during ulti, or if you really want to make illaoi sad cc her mid-w and it interrupts the skill entirely.

It's your fault for making the most useless champ in the game some heavy power threat just because you stand still and let her do what she does.

She needs a rework too inconsistent and fails dramatically when the enemy doesn't stand still and face tank everything.

ShadowAlphaManNov 27, 20154 votes

we don't respect her zone control because she has zone control over the entire lane

Inting PillowDec 1, 20153 votes

Illaoi early game: OH hi plz don't kill me Illaoi Mid game: 0/3 but can 2v1 people with 3/0 and 2/1 Illaoi late game: If u grouped U JUST GOT R3KT

KoiberryDec 13, 20153 votes

she is more anti-fun than yorick item 3070

alfavhunterNov 24, 20152 votes

Her base damage could be toned down a little

But that's all she really needs

And the hotbox on her Q fixed

I've dodged plenty of them just to still get hit (I was fully out of the indicated hit zone)

BringItBritneyNov 27, 20152 votes

Yeah and the duration for her ults slow could use a little tuning as well.

MechyfoxNov 27, 20151 votes

Illaoi's ult has no slow. The only slow she has is on her hard-to-hit E soul steal ability, and that too only if she manages to kill your spirit or if you decide to run.

SpoofghoulNov 24, 20152 votes

Maybe Sion can shoot her tentacles away? and what about Syndra?

LankPantsNov 25, 20152 votes

I'm fairly sure they're anchored to their spawn point.

You can TP onto them though.

GoosetardNov 27, 20151 votes

they behave more like wards than minions

ChaoticaNov 26, 20152 votes

I played against her in the top lane for the first time tonight. She went 12/5/10. Most of her kills were me :3

Meep ManNov 26, 20152 votes

Hey people, dodge. Thats Illaoi. Dodge. Dodge Q, dodge E, dodge tentacles. The only guaranteed thing she cam do to you is her W basic attack. Her R can even be dodged with mobility. Tentacles under turret? Kill them. She cant make use of them if they are under your tower. Two basic attacks and you are awarded five gold. Congrats!

You people need to learn to stay in motion and dodge, because I have yet to against an Illaoi and feel screwed.

Ty1oreNov 28, 20154 votes

Maverick. You focus on dodging while she laughs her ass off while farming, and not having to do anything... Yeah balanced.

MiTsuO AkaiNov 28, 20152 votes

They are trying to nerf Quinn because they say she is too good against Illaoi..

Wild WesDec 1, 20152 votes

Everyone saying Illaoi is balanced are people hopping to main her. You cannot deny the fact she can deal damage to you from so long - she can use her E while you're hiding far underneath and still do damage to you.

OmManiPadmeHumDec 1, 20151 votes

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Everyone saying Illaoi is balanced are people hopping to main her. You cannot deny the fact she can deal damage to you from so long - she can use her E while you're hiding far underneath and still do damage to you.

No, People are saying she is UNDERTUNED if not balanced.

She has ZERO escape, her form of CC is a skillshot that they can run away from.

Learn 2 Dodge and she is easy mode. Trust me, she is about a teir 3 top laner. SO MANY more viable picks than her right now. Just because you tried diving a black cleaver illaoi, doesn't make her OP. That is her fighting style. she is garbage is she doesn't have any tentacles around her. So she can't gank better than others, she can't jungle better than others and there are about 10+ other top laners more "viable" than her right now. Off the top of my head:

DrMundo TahmKench Malphite Renekton MonkeyKing Tryndamere Trundle Fiora Gnar Chogath

There are more that I would pick before illaoi...but that is just because I am better at other champs at the moment.

The people that are bitching about her are the people that got demolished in a team fight with her in it. Same thing happens with every champ that isn't support. People cry nerfs.

CurseXxDec 2, 20152 votes

well, to simply put it, she doesn't need to "escape" she just needs to land one spell and watch you wasting your time, your cs, and experience trying to dodge the crap out of her other spells or the huge-damage tentacles (Even if she is FULL tank-her early damage is insane.) while tentacles are healing her in case they landed, so stop saying escape and cc, she doesn't need any of that shit.

i seriously wonder how did they approve that in PBE, how did they see the balance? did they just park her against minions or they didn't fully exploit her strengths to see if she's actually broken!!!

Wild WesDec 2, 20152 votes

She doesn't need an escape! If she protects her squid things she can deal so much damage. With her E, it's consistent damage on you until you run out of the circle to then be slowed and take damage and then spawning squids for like the next minute! Her squids can deal 300 damage! And when she uses her E on you the squids spawn and if you're low, you've got to watch out. I've seen so many allies barely escape her squids after trying to recall. Sure they only have 2 health, so unless you're a Vayne with almost 2 attack speed you can't kill it before it slaps.

Bubble BDec 1, 20152 votes

She needs nerf now because she is broken AFFFFF!Riot is unable to create a balanced champ for ONCE!

FLStuDioSDec 20, 20152 votes

Another game against this champ. She was 0-5 and i outfarmed her. I countered her in every ways possible at early and mid game. Udyr ganked at my lane to help me sometimes and we killed her many times, but... I STILL WASN'T ABLE TO EVEN HIT HER TOWER ! She fought 1 vs 3 (Me, a fed Ezreal and Udyr) and we were nearly dead ! As i said, Ez was fed, i was too, and Udyr was ok ! Is it supposed to be normal??? A champ that is outplayed, outfarmed, (outkilled?), and still able to almost win a 1vs3 fight??

Not to mention that in the end, she still was 0-5 and i had much more cs, but she could dive me easily without getting worried. And i was built with armor and giant belt... what the hell are we supposed to do against this crap??

ShadowWarrior997Jan 21, 20162 votes

And that bullshit heal man, one darius wasn't enough. she is worse than Darius.

Frozen379Apr 2, 20162 votes

At least I can deal with darius.

Frozen379Apr 2, 20162 votes

I just wanted to play casual garen at the top and illaoi comes here...

Few minutes later I am crying under my tower with level 4 while she laughs her ass off while farming and already having like 90+ farm lead and already level 8.