Even with the mana cost changes, there's no reason to max Sion's Q first

Salt Miner 49 Er··6 votes·995 views

Mobility meta means that everybody who actually has a brain with just side step the Q and laugh at you while you just wasted time to try and knock them up. I'd rather scream minions at people and pretend Sion is at all relevant.

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Narasimha8 votes

If you're only using it to try and hit people, then you're not doing it right.

Salt Miner 49 Er1 votes

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If you're only using it to try and hit people, then you're not doing it right.

I'm trying to use it to actually do something more than activate my W and bumrushing into a teamfight with R. Which is exactly the problem that old Sion had, relying on TWO abilities.

Narasimha8 votes

You use it to zone. Especially in lane, because in teamfights, you're going to hit SOMETHING. But in lane, you always want to make sure that your Q is going to throw off your enemy. Aim it so that it hits some of their minions. Time it so that they can't go for your cannon minion about to die. Make them fear it because, like a Blitz Q, one good hit is all you need.

disregardable6 votes

Mobility meta has nothing to do with it. I can walk out of the thing with Ashe.

GhostOfShrimpmas5 votes

So, why not aim your Q at your own ADC, so that people will stay away from it? You don't need to use it as an easy to dodge stun, you can use it as an area denial tool. The big red target indicator is essentially a wall that your foes can't cross.

Baron of Bread1 votes

The best part is when they try to cross and then your ADC gets to kill them.

Phuc Dat Bich2 votes

everyone with tier 1 boots can walk out of his Q..

ThePlasticSpork2 votes

You can't seriously be implying that Sion isn't relevant right now

Use your Q for area denial. If you're just walking up to people and trying to Q them you deserve to fail.

GloriousKaiser1 votes

Maybe if he could move and rotate it....

Nah that would mean giving him a chance against Kalista Kassadin Leblanc

RogueWill1 votes

If you land a slow first then is quite easy to hit your Q, unless you are jungle you are not supposed to start Q with any combo, it is supposed to be a folow up ability

UPfreely1 votes

i dont think they did it to try to get you to max Q, they did it as compensation for the nerf to e

flibitydoo1 votes

It's hilarious during a teamfight when the enemy kha'zix thinks that they can just walk past Sion.

Not only does my E slow you so it takes even longer to walk into leap range, but it also shreds your armour so my ADC kills you even faster.

BakedLotion1 votes

i always maxed it with full AD sion lelelelele the nukes

Kuroi861 votes

Best way to hit Q I've found it to first hit the E and then charge Q just enough to hit them. Don't bother with max charge. Another great thing is initiating with ult up lane to follow up with charged Q for knock up.

ProfDrDeath1 votes

Also, in some lanes, it can still be helpful to max Q over E. For example, I played a Morgana some days ago - and it ended up in an AFK pushfest after our jungle got me first blood at level 3. So, I maxed Q to be able to counterpush.

Anecdotes aside, Q is a superb area denial tool. As was already said here, place it below your ADC in a teamfight and dare them to dive him.

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