because shen does stupid things in organized gameplay.
Shen is a different champ in high elo and people who play him need to accept this or ask for a full rework. Why nerf shen?
At masters level he runs at a 15% pickrate with a 60% winrate. Of course its a small and very volatile sample but shen is not the champ you want to be doing TOO well right before the big tournaments and thus testing must be done. Testing as in it hasn't hit live for a reason.
adidas3 votesFalse. He does not run a 15% win rate Nor does he boast a 60% win rate.
If you're going to post statistics atleast let them be accurate.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesused league of graphs and that says 68% winrate on an upwards trend as his playrate falls
Rock MD1 votesused league of graphs and that says 68% winrate on an upwards trend as his playrate falls
Yeah I'm going to side with CringeBox on this one League of Graphs is far better than Lolking.
adidas1 votes[{quoted}](name=Chairman Rock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bqW6RV6d,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-27T03:16:33.870+0000)
Yeah I'm going to side with CringeBox on this one League of Graphs is far better than Lolking.
The websites arent better. They give the same exact stats.... I was correcting his statistics which were wrong.
adidas1 votesused league of graphs and that says 68% winrate on an upwards trend as his playrate falls
Taric has a higher playrate and winrate in the same section. Does he needs nerfs too :x?
Akali is SO HOT1 votesYes
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votestaric doesn't shen the game up though. When taric is strong botlane struggles, when shen is stong people stop playing the game even though the match timer is still running
adidas1 votestaric doesn't shen the game up though. When taric is strong botlane struggles, when shen is stong people stop playing the game even though the match timer is still running
Well obviously as you can see a majority of people on the boards think you're absolutely wrong and shen does not need nerfs. That would include me
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesThe majority of people on this board have been wrong on many occasions and are easily misled by silver linings and rallying cries.
Meanwhile
Shen has been a hotly debated case of hidden power since release Taric has no such problematic history, if he was strong sometimes you didn't even notice it.
You can bullshit me with downvotes or even pull the rank card but history is history and design is not play.
When taric is strong the meta moves with him When shen is strong the meta bends, twists, cracks, and breaks and he becomes a ridiculous existence with his built in tele- shiled
Bears Dont Care1 votesThe majority of people on this board have been wrong on many occasions and are easily misled by silver linings and rallying cries.
Meanwhile
Shen has been a hotly debated case of hidden power since release Taric has no such problematic history, if he was strong sometimes you didn't even notice it.
You can bullshit me with downvotes or even pull the rank card but history is history and design is not play.
When taric is strong the meta moves with him When shen is strong the meta bends, twists, cracks, and breaks and he becomes a ridiculous existence with his built in tele- shiled
I agree with this statement. Shen has the potential to affect the meta more powerfully than other champions due to his kit.
adidas1 votesThe majority of people on this board have been wrong on many occasions and are easily misled by silver linings and rallying cries.
Yeah. Including you.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 voteseven if what you said is true the basis of my argument is not the majority of the likely not properly informed agreeing with me.
adidas1 voteseven if what you said is true the basis of my argument is not the majority of the likely not properly informed agreeing with me.
You can base your argument on what you want. No matter what lane im in i dont give a shit if im fighting shen. I get 10x more frustrated fighting Gangplank or gnar
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesno, I can't just base it on whatever I want which is partly the point of my argument
PermabannedGaren1 votesused league of graphs and that says 68% winrate on an upwards trend as his playrate falls
Show me.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 voteshttp://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/shen/lcs
it went up 5% (pickrate)
adidas1 voteshttp://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/shen/lcs
it went up 5% (pickrate)
Then you look at the other top 10 champs and realize they all have higher play rates and win rates ;x
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesmiss fortune with 50% pickrate and 70% winrate is not as big an issue as shen with 25% pickrate and 55% winrate
might mean miss fortune is too strong but one of these two issues suffocates the game and may lead to 2 hour games again