buff varus

khorney··2 votes·813 views

cons:varus is the weakest adc by far compared to the others.... stupid passive low damage low attack speed no self atatck speed buff.... jinx and cait can do what he does only more powerful.....slow movement speed ult has low range, he has low aa range as well. if i missed anything please tell me.

pros. strong scaling and damage on q(negated by the piercing effect. very very strong hybrid adc.

31 Comments

ValyrianBlade2 votes

Varus has a lot of on-demand CC, that forces zoning or it spreads to AOE.

You have to pay for that level of utility.

And before you say "but Ashe..." be aware that I think Ashe needs nerfs.

Marshbouy1 votes

i agree that ashe needs nerfs. Her slow can become insane. she is a high performing ADC right now, im pretty sure a nerf is on her way.

khorney1 votes

they wont nerf her becuase she cant crit and needs to land aa befor eshe can uuse her q

Marshbouy1 votes

no they are going to nerf her.

khorney1 votes

no on demand cc..... his ult pfff okay .... jinx has traps does more damage cait has traps and does more damage.... ohh his q... its barely better then jinx taser or cait shot..... every adc is better then varus... varus only has good ap scaling which is what he has over every otehr adc

ValyrianBlade1 votes

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no on demand cc..... his ult pfff okay .... jinx has traps does more damage cait has traps and does more damage.... ohh his q... its barely better then jinx taser or cait shot..... every adc is better then varus... varus only has good ap scaling which is what he has over every otehr adc

An instant 2 second root that spreads to nearby champions thereby zoning them.

You're comparing to a 1.5 second snare that takes 0.7 seconds to arm...

khorney1 votes

lets see less cd and not a ult and it only spreads if they remain in there long enough ......

khorney1 votes

again other peopel can do what he does but way way better. ashe for isntance ..... global ult that has a lower cd...... hmmmmm

Marshbouy1 votes

she is getting nerfed. No one is disputing that. He is balanced. you do no balance the game by buffing a balanced or slightly underpowered up to the level of an OP champion.

khorney1 votes

he is way under powered compred to hsi fellow bretheren....... not good early mid or late.... sure twitch is weak as fck early best prolly the strongest late game or u can be draven which is the strongest adc period

Marshbouy1 votes

does that mean he should be really op? no. Varus as toxic. His early game is insane, if he has too good of an early game then he shuts down everyone else.

you have to abuse his early game to end the game. If you can't do that, play another ADC.

khorney1 votes

no he doesnt lol......lets see a high cd high mana cost on his q, low aa range, hmm what early game are you exactly saying

Marshbouy1 votes

that max health damage from 3 autos and a fully charged Q. It chunks hard. stop trying to get pointless buffs for your main.

TheDevice1 votes

Try this build with 12/18/0 masteries (thunderlords)

item 3004 item 3142 item 3036 item 3812 item 3158

then item 3157 vs assassins or item 3156 vs high burst mages or item 3139 vs cc heavy teams

He's definitely reliant on positioning but once you start landing those Q's over and over you'll get used to his overall playstyle which is enaging after all the poke and catching low-health enemies trying to retreat. That doesn't sound like a sexy playstyle but after a while you might find more enjoyment in it. His ult is extremely powerful and is one of the few ADC's that can initiate temfights. You just gotta find the right tempo. Building him as more of a caster than your regular Atk speed / crit style imo is just superior. It plays to his strengths which is mostly in his Q.

His passive might seem a bit weak but it isn't as bad as I used to think it is. If you play him the way I described you don't need to build any actual attack speed besides ghostblade since you'll most likely be getting an assist / kill at the start of the fight. Varus is all about poking / pressuring, teamfighting, and being an opportunist (like a vulture). He's not the best 1v1er but once you're ahead that won't matter so much. Just play safe until you smell blood.

khorney1 votes

i have and still sucks because u still need ur team and hoep they dotn dive on you and if thats ur adc build lol your about to lsoe big time.... no constant damage is gg.

zlumpy1 votes

Hard to balance a champ that can auto chunk %hp with 3 AA and a cast. Killed many people who underestimated his late game burst and tried to 1v1 him or dive him.

His problem is he is reaallly easy to shut down early game due to low mobility and no good cc unless you fire the slow really early and run. Pair that with a no cc support and he is a sitting duck in bot lane.

Edit obviously pre 6 although I hate using an ult defensively on an adc for most of the casts.

khorney1 votes

sure i can do that if i go ap but no oen does it....... he is slow and easy to kill and shut down. other peopel can do what he does only better

Revali1 votes

'low damage'

bruh, have you seen his q damage, it gets pretty crazy.

khorney1 votes

bruh have u seen the damaeg reduction on his psiercing shot.... why even bother if u need to hit them in the open to do it

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Despite what you say, it's not stopping LCS to pick him more than, say Twitch Urgot & even Draven .

khorney1 votes

despite what i say which is true.....

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Nope, it entirely isn't.

no self atatck speed buff

He gets bonus attack speed simply by killing minions. More when killing champions.

jinx and cait can do what he does only more powerful

He's not a full DPS champion like Jinx or Cait. All Varus can do is apply as much Blight(W) as possible with his AA. Even 1 or 2 Blight can be painful when procced with his Q, E or R.

slow movement speed ult has low range

The range is medium long unlike Bard's Q, and pretty sure its speed is faster than Morgana's Q itself, or less, the same speed.

he has low aa range as well

His range is 575, did you even checked anything before you commented on this?

khorney1 votes

look at cait hmm ..... passive doesnt count, 4 kills with varus and you hope on the other team his dumbass goes for tear means nothing

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Tbh, I can't understand what you're trying to say here.

khorney1 votes

alot of varus regardless mid or adc will try and go for manamune not damage ... say varus goes 4 and 0 and okay gets tear ..... say cait goes 4 and 0 then gets bf sword whats goign to win

TRUMP IS DAD1 votes

Varus is mid game, other adcs atm has the ability get to mid-game and then late-game.(That are high in the list of tier)

Wait for the meta to shift... Varus might become the "op" adc if the meta shifts to who can power spike the most in mid-game.

RageLessPlayMore1 votes

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khorney1 votes

you have to get runaans on him or you will get fckd up

SwiftKitten881 votes

varus isn't "weak" but she could use some tweaks

a better passive and a slightly increased base attack speed to compensate

and the AP damage on his blighted quiver should scale with AD, as well as his ulti scaling with AD

that actaully makes me think... since Varus DOES scale with AD and AP. i wonder if item 3146 anditem 3124

idk how 6 stack rageblade would work with his W

khorney1 votes

when you go ap you tend to build both of these items becuase the w passive does do a lot of damage magic wise. basic asap build would be nashors tooth, hextech, another attack speed item of your choosing(blade of the ruined king,wits end(42 magic damage on hit is liek 300sp by itself for the nashors passive)or the most likely choice being runaans), ap youll clear cs waves quick. boots of your choosing either beserk greaves or cdr boots.lich bane and most likely deathcap or void staff for your last item. this is more or less a standard asap build which works for every champ that has a aa based magic damage liek teemo, tf(get runaans your e will fck people up), orianna, and kog. this does work just hope you have a little peels. i go top with this build because more or less there isnt a lost of top laners htat can dive on you.

varus is simple and brings nothign to the table other adcs cant do better. i rarely see him in any games i play. any adc i see is alwasy luc, jinx, vayne, cait ,and mf

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