Playing a tank against a vayne is an actual nightmare. Your ability to soak damage is non existent, and it gets worse the late the game goes on. So you end up wanting the game to end as soon as possible, not to win, but to escape this horror.
The thigh guy10 votesPlaying a tank in general is demotivating atm.
Tahminatrix 5 votesEspecially considering vayne hard counters you but still performs well against your squishy teammates.
DuskDaUmbreon3 votesNo?
Vayne does the same ratio of damage, but that's inherent to anti-tanks.
However, Vayne dies significantly faster than a lot of champions - even other ADCs.
So yes, she kills other champions just as easily...if they're braindead enough to let her hit them when they can just one-shot Vayne.
Tahminatrix 5 votesYes?
I said she performs well against squishy and hardcounters tank. Notice how performing well is not the equivalent of hard countering. Don't act like im arguing she does equally well against them both.
But ill counter your derailed argument.
Vayne most certainly does do more damage to squishies since they don't have armor to reduce her auto damage. She has bonus damage on her q and extra ad on her r, and her w has a MINIMUM meaning if someone has very little max hp it will have the potential to do a higher ratio.
She only dies faster to point and clicks....you hitting her with a skillshot has more to do with her ability to dodge than it does with your ability to land projectiles.
Only assassins can easily oneshot vayne, most mages are not instant / point and click and are too immobile to avoid her / chase her.
Fighters she can just E away as they gapclose onto her, and depending on the case they might end up being sitting ducks afterwards.
Juggernauts she completely ruins by knocking them back.
Romans VI XXIII3 votesYea feels good taking over 50% of your MAX hp in true damage.....
xDogMeatx1 votesdont build HARD tanky then go full damage build with some tanky features so you arent squishy.
Sir Saltarin1 votes
is literally a counter to 
, you could try with him
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Malphite/
Sir Saltarin2 votesHey it's not that I mind being downvoted on the Gameplay Boards but do you guys do it because you think I'm wrong or just for pure frustration when you realize that tanks as Malphite are among the hardest counters to Vayne regardless of the circlejerk ?
Saevum2 votesMaybe you got downvoted because attempting to defend Vayne around here is suicidal...
Malph will still die to Vayne if he cant reach her with Q and E her life. Oh! wait! where did she go?
Sir Saltarin1 votesOkay so it's the latter, or even worse
Malphite does counter Vayne, if you dont trust my words you can trust the data that shows that he hard counters her
You guys are just in denial
Saevum1 votesHow does the trade work pre 6, according to the data you gathered?
hrooza dota 1 votesmalph Q should hurt more then vaynes autos early on i think
Saevum1 votesShe will start Doran Blade, Malph can start cloth armor, 4 pots. You are going to run out of mana. If you start doran, you will run out of health.
Level one trades will barely favor malph, even if he goes Q pathing. Have you even checked the cost on his Q? Level 2 will favor vayne all the way until 6. At 6, malph gets ult. We are asuming that Malph has a jungler and that Vayne is not fed yet, she is still 1 level above, she froze the lane near tower, denied you levels.
Do you guys even top lane or you guys are just here speaking air trips?
hrooza dota 1 votesdont every mana ap champion and their mother start 
new days? based on the web site its the most starter item for him ( of course if we exclude 
)
i top lane sometimes, dont see vayne often there to start talking about her match ups at all , im arguing using stats that sir provide and thats it
Saevum1 votesIf you go corruption she is gonna shred your ass harder than cloth 4 pots. Your passive is the key here to survive, amps your armor, she will struggle more shredding it just with the autos damage unless she 3 procs it. You still gonna get hurt tho. And we are assuming that the tank selected by this Thread's OP is Malphite.
Counter does not garentee success. This Threads OP is a casual or a lowbie. "Just try malph" yea right.
hrooza dota 1 votesfirst of all, i dont see how vayne shred hard so early in the game that you always have to go cloth pots.
and secondly no body said counter garentee success , he just said that malph count vayne and stats proof that. and you should note even if this thread op is a casual/lowbie he will be fighting casual/lowbie vayne players
Saevum1 votes[{quoted}](name=hrooza dota ,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bitH446y,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-10T10:04:06.288+0000)
first of all, i dont see how vayne shred hard so early in the game
Ok, you don't know Vayne nor Top. That's all i wanted to know. I rest my case, i won't reply any further, you guys are seriously in denial. Oh wait, it's only 1 guy in denial.
p.s. Another thing, the vayne top cheese, is abused by gold players, plats and one tricks that refuse to drop Vayne or properly top when bot is taken rom them.
hrooza dota 1 voteswow love how personal you get real quick, i played against and with vayne a lot in bot lane and i know for sure she dont shred fast as some of you claim in early.
im stating a matchup backed up with stats from a website , not how good vayne is on top so you can end it with (but vayne players and plats abuse top vayne) .
Sir Saltarin1 votesI mean you could have just clicked on the link I've posted before but ok
Look at how Malphite is showed as the third hardest counter to Toplane Vayne by simple data
Ragnaveil1 votesI mean, they exist, just in the form of 
or any fighter that can use Steraks.
Tahminatrix 5 votesThose arnt tanks but you are right about steraks, tanks melt so fast right now that I even put steraks in my builds when im trying to be full tank (I don't even use the extra ad when im playing something like tahm kench)
Ragnaveil1 votesMeanwhile I think people got the wrong idea about my comment. I was being sarcastic. I miss my tanks.
