Whoever decided Malzahar should get an immunity shield every 10 or 6 seconds

Kr1sys··14 votes·813 views

Really has no business deciding any sort of balance decisions ever. It's an ability that would be op on URF

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Caítlyn3 votes

Was probably the same person who decided Zac should get a Malphite ult as a normal ability.

King of Mongoose8 votes

lmfao whining about zac?

Amelie3 votes

I could be wrong, but wasn't this to help with his ultimate? I remember people complaining that Malz was bad because his ult snared himself and made him a sitting duck (or people could immediately cc him out of it). This at least gives him a second or two to actually do some damage without instantly dropping.

Even auto attacks break the shield, so I don't think it's actually that overbearing.

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

Yeah, ya just AA him and it's off. However, I do still think he's pretty broken in top lane against melee champs.

Kr1sys2 votes

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I could be wrong, but wasn't this to help with his ultimate? I remember people complaining that Malz was bad because his ult snared himself and made him a sitting duck (or people could immediately cc him out of it). This at least gives him a second or two to actually do some damage without instantly dropping.

Even auto attacks break the shield, so I don't think it's actually that overbearing.

If it was for his ultimate, why isn't it a passive effect for the first second of it? Why can it have a 6 second cool down?

Sure, autos will break it, but with that uptime, it basically fuck every single melee champ because he's cc immune and nearly damage immune for a full second after being popped.

Aeszarck1 votes

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If it was for his ultimate, why isn't it a passive effect for the first second of it? Why can it have a 6 second cool down?

Sure, autos will break it, but with that uptime, it basically fuck every single melee champ because he's cc immune and nearly damage immune for a full second after being popped.

They wanted to keep Malzahar as a good anti-assassin counterpick, even in pre-six levels or when he doesn't have his ultimate.

Kr1sys1 votes

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They wanted to keep Malzahar as a good anti-assassin counterpick, even in pre-six levels or when he doesn't have his ultimate.

You say that like he's garbage to assassins pre six. His voidlings get an easy target to reproduce on and his dot does his pretty hard.

Kr1sys2 votes

Innate: Malzahar receives Void Shift if he hasn't taken damage nor been affected by crowd control in the last 30 / 18 / 10 / 6 seconds. Damage from minions does not interact with Void Shift.

Void Shift phases out Malzahar, making him immune to crowd control and taking 90% reduced damage, lingering for 1 second after taking damage or blocking a crowd control effect.

why is this even a thing?

where's the counter play? Even poke comps don't get abilities they can freely throw out to pop this shield that has that much uptime.

Not even champs with spell shields as an actual ability get to block secondary portions of abilities, much less the cc of them if damage occurs first.

This kit is legit overloaded, you thought it was the silly interaction of his voidlings and spawning to clear the jungle without taking damage. But it's really that once the game gets to even when you can surrender he's already getting immunity every 10 seconds.

https://www.champion.gg/champion/Malzahar/Middle

Arkale2 votes

It is still every x seconds without being affected by cc or taking damage, so it only helps the initiation of a fight. Also the damage on his abilities got hit hard in the rework, so they felt (for some reason) that he just needed a crazy good passive to make him still work.

InfinitexMortal1 votes

Smoke another one Riot

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

Y'know, what if someone were to buy Bashee's Veil, QSS, and Mikael's Crucible on him? Think I'm gonna try that in a Normal game soon...

VoidStaresBack1 votes

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Y'know, what if someone were to buy Bashee's Veil, QSS, and Mikael's Crucible on him? Think I'm gonna try that in a Normal game soon...

I seem to recall Banshee's Veil and his pasive both get popped at the same time if he's hit with a spell, but I may be wrong on that.

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

Yeah the first time it will, but then the timings will be displaced between when his shield is up and off, then it'll play a role.

Arkale1 votes

Unless you're out of combat long enough for both to reset.

DænariusKhølerin1 votes

Yep.

Kr1sys1 votes

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I seem to recall Banshee's Veil and his pasive both get popped at the same time if he's hit with a spell, but I may be wrong on that.

I think that's why it's not a full damage immunity, if it was full, you'd still need to pop banshee's

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