5.17 patch notes and still no fix for catastrophic 5.16 patch

g07h4xf00··6 votes·1,473 views
Patch 5.17 Notes

"While definitely strong (hey Skarner), the landscape of 5.16 is far less apocalyptic than its contents may have predicted."

LOL "apocalyptic" is the right word for patch 5.16, one of the worst patches in the history of the game. So let me get this straight.

  1. No Skarner nerfs, he's 100% broken and they don't have a clue on how to fix him???
  2. No Mordekaiser nerfs.
  3. Darius BUFFS?? WHY?? Nobody likes it when he's strong and at this point the changes beg the question of why does he even have mana to begin with? Just remove his mana costs completely. His ult and crippling strike now reset/refund and his Q is only 40 mana. Wtf is this.
  4. "Garen isn't slow enough so we're making his movement speed 340, which is higher than similar bulky champions like Maokai Nautilus Alistar etc" Great, that'll fix him.
  5. No Fiora nerfs?
  6. EVEN MORE tank nerfs on Gragas Maokai after the 5.16 gutting. Maokai already has one of the lowest win rates in the game and Gragas has almost disappeared from solo queue. Just because they still appeared in NA LCS (which plays on patch 5.15) doesn't mean they're still strong. GTFO.
  7. Even MORE Azir nerfs. I'm not denying that he's strong, but Viktor was already the strongest mid laner in the game and after these Azir nerfs when we get to World's it'll basically become Viktor "pick, ban, or lose." I'm sure there will be some more Azir nerfs in 5.18 to compensate. Derp.
  8. Those Kalista baby nerfs are definitely addressing the issue that's making her strong, huh Rito
  9. LOL Shen NERFS?? REALLY?? A Champion with <50% win rate in solo queue who isn't even considered the THIRD BEST top laner by Pro-play standards (recall they are on patch 5.15 still)?? Same fucking bullshit as point (6) but jesus christ I just had to mention Shen specifically. He's one of the easiest champions to lane as or against and probably the least toxic/cancerous champion in the game. Nope, better nerf.
  10. The Nocturne changes were the funniest for the following reason:

"Reverting our restriction on how far he can rocket forth and murder-torpedo your backline should give teams at all levels of play more reason to embrace the darkness.

Shout-outs to those who say we never revert anything. This one’s for y’all."

Rito admitting their backpedaling and how they have no idea how to balance their own game. They did the same thing with item 3153 where they nerfed it and then re-verted the nerfs, buffed it, and simultaneously gutted armor itemization.


Also for those of you who doubted that 5.16 would kill tanks:

http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Top http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Jungle

Within each role (50 Top laners and 44 Junglers) how are the win-rates for tank champions looking? Oh look! They are overwhelmingly in the bottom half of both roles, with few minor exceptions (Malphite Amumu). So basically they are back to how shitty they were before ANY season 5 changes, but arguably worse since tanks that were relevant at the end of Season 4 (Sion Maokai Alistar) were nerfed to shit. Recall that (Malphite Amumu) have always traditionally had high win rates due to their wombo potential, but their pick rates don't really show in any case.

Looks like things are happening EXACTLY as I predicted it.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/n1KJiBUl-516-looks-like-literally-one-the-dumbest-patches-in-the-history-of-the-game-item-change-analysis?show=flat http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/o9z6EaKQ-rip-tanks-55-516?show=flat

What a fucking surprise!

Have yet to see one of my original predictions: tanks will barely be played at Worlds. Mark my words. There will be juggernauts, we'll probably see a Gnar since he's like a hybrid bruiser/marksman/assassin/juggernaut/ebola virus/tank I guess. Alistar's ultimate means that no matter how bad tank itemization is he'll still remain relevant (like he did in S4 Worlds). What about DrMundo who is always picked at Worlds? Gone. Shen? Fucked. Maokai? Lmao why play Maokai when you can play a Gnar or even Nautilus?

16 Comments

Deiske6 votes

They're not gonna change champions they just re-made because skins. they want your money and don't give a fuck about balance. Haven't you been playing lone enough to know this? you think they're gonna nerf fiora before her project skin comes out? LMAO YOU THOUGHT WRONG.

Masked Lunatic1 votes

They are thinking about nerfing her for 5.18 (here's what they are intending to deal with for the next patch : http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/09/red-post-collection-meddler-on.html).

g07h4xf002 votes

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They're not gonna change champions they just re-made because skins. they want your money and don't give a fuck about balance. Haven't you been playing lone enough to know this? you think they're gonna nerf fiora before her project skin comes out? LMAO YOU THOUGHT WRONG.

Of course they won't. Same reason why the conveniently decided to buff Lucian last patch and MasterYi this patch.

Masked Lunatic3 votes

So doesn't anyone realise that skarner was hotfix nerfed already: http://oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-516-notes#patch-patch-updates

And note that these nerfs were added on pbe after the 5.16 patch

Oh and no need for the venom.

edit: they state that they overshot it and are gonna watch him over the next pbe cycle.

g07h4xf002 votes

[{quoted}](name=Masked Lunatic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bbjM1LE3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-09-01T20:12:23.430+0000)

So doesn't anyone realise that skarner was hotfix nerfed already: http://oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-516-notes#patch-patch-updates

And note that these nerfs were added on pbe after the 5.16 patch

Oh and no need for the venom.

edit: they state that they overshot it and are gonna watch him over the next pbe cycle.

His win rate is still absurd even if you take into account the most recent games in the last few days.

Masked Lunatic1 votes

Never said that he was nerfed enough but I was just making the point that they are paying attention. They are just allowing more time to pass so they have a greater sample of games to look at before making a significant change.

and when i said overshot it i mean his original buff (just for clarity's sake).

g07h4xf003 votes

Garbage patch, garbage balance team.

Nimba1 votes

Kalista gets nerfed like every patch, I'm pretty sure they're addressing her issues.

g07h4xf002 votes

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Kalista gets nerfed like every patch, I'm pretty sure they're addressing her issues.

I suppose, though her problem is more mobility and infinite spear stacking more than the early game cooldown of her ultimate.

Nimba1 votes

Also the W nerf, it deters Kalista's from cheesing at lvl 1 with a ranged support. Likely more viable to start q or e now which is a pretty big deal in lane vs her. Two nerfs in addition to the facct that she's nerfed basically every patch now.

Mobility is what makes her as a champ, unless she's reworked I don't see how you nerf that.

Adalore1 votes

Good lord. I hate to break it to you but you are a vocal minority.

In the words of KHA of the ZIX "Change is good".

g07h4xf003 votes

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Good lord. I hate to break it to you but you are a vocal minority.

In the words of KHA of the ZIX "Change is good".

Not all change is good. Even Rito agrees with this since they have a history of reverting changes they've made to things and ADMITTING it.

Adalore1 votes

Like the rioter patchnote comment on NOCTURNE's ult! it only took years!

g07h4xf001 votes

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Like the rioter patchnote comment on NOCTURNE's ult! it only took years!

Yeah it's so dumb and the patch rundown video is even dumber

SkarSkarSkarner1 votes

This is the right place to be if you want to read a moron's opinion of 5.17 Patch Notes.

g07h4xf001 votes

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This is the right place to be if you want to read a moron's opinion of 5.17 Patch Notes.

Yeah these morons that are 5.16 apologists and don't care that none of the problems are being addressed in 5.17

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