He's banned a ton and its annoying, whenever I play Darius the enemy responds with immobile champions. People think he's op and he might be, but everyone seems to forget how kiteable he is.
Is he going to get his passive nerfed, Q, or will he get his E buffed as it feels unreliable at max range.
Thoughts?
RiotMeddler7 votesWhat we do next with Darius depends on how the 5.17 changes affect him, we need to find out how the power the W buff adds to him compares with the power removed by fixing the Q multihit/multiheal bug. He was too strong in 5.16, need to determine his 5.17 state before talking about possible 5.18 changes though.
Desiderium2 votesSpeaking of 5.18, if (theoretically) we get a new champion in that patch, will they be available for Worlds or are you guys leery of their balance state?
Retillin2 votesThey said they planned on 5.17 and 5.18 being really small patches. So I would be shocked if they included a new champion right before Worlds.
Kingsgrave2 votesThey said they planned on 5.17 and 5.18 being really small patches. So I would be shocked if they included a new champion right before Worlds.
Besides, even if they did they never let you play the new Champion in a tournament until like 2-3 patches later.
RiotMeddler7 votes5.18 won't include a new champion. Even if it did I imagine we'd disable that champion for Worlds.
Adalvar2 votesWhat about Syndra, do you have any news on how much of her passive you guys are buffing/remaking?
TL Iamtheattack1 voteswhy not release it then just disable it for the pro scene or even ranked then just let people get used to it in normals?
PANBU1 votesthen why comes the teaser so early ? I mean that why could Riot realese the Champion theser after the Worlds
GF63 Blade3 votesi think the new champ comes on patch 5.19
kLimaDzU1 votesWhat's champion gonna be? I hear it will be like a Rat or something...
BnjoeC5 votesIt won't have "a" new champion. It mighty have two though :P
5 Stacks GG2 voteshey meddler if you are nerfing him, I think the best nerf would be having his Q dmg lowered to 30 at rank one and 120 at rank 5 and make the heal back to 10%.
I feel like those nerf would make him pretty balanced and sit at 49-50% winrate again and stop being banned in ranked.
right now everyone (even in master elo) ppl consider him op because of the heal of his Q.
IsIsGankedParis1 votesNot sure if this is possible, but is it possible to buff jungle Darius by making his outer Q heal him for half of what it is on live, capping at 30% still on large monsters?
So 7.5% missing health each large monster hit(excluding scuttle).
Crys3s1 votesWhat we do next with Darius depends on how the 5.17 changes affect him, we need to find out how the power the W buff adds to him compares with the power removed by fixing the Q multihit/multiheal bug. He was too strong in 5.16, need to determine his 5.17 state before talking about possible 5.18 changes though.
I will say, I love playing Darius, but he is still too strong at this point. Every game I have played against a Darius since release, he has been more like a TANK and less like a juggernaut. All he needs to do is get plate, and flash q to get the 60% heal off. If you think about it, the delay actually helps Darius because he suffers all the damage while channeling it then gains it right back while dealing damage from those hit. Kiting isn't the issue. Its the second you are caught - no matter what, you are dead.
Biffolo1 votesSimple fix to that: Don't get caught.
LoopKat1 votesI will say, I love playing Darius, but he is still too strong at this point. Every game I have played against a Darius since release, he has been more like a TANK and less like a juggernaut. All he needs to do is get plate, and flash q to get the 60% heal off. If you think about it, the delay actually helps Darius because he suffers all the damage while channeling it then gains it right back while dealing damage from those hit. Kiting isn't the issue. Its the second you are caught - no matter what, you are dead.
From what I've seen of the new Darius, he has trouble getting kills when he has less than 5 passive stacks, but kills everything once he has 5 stacks. Even before seeing it in-game, I knew the instant 5-stack application was going to be broken.
JimMaru2 votesCan I please make a suggestion?
I think you should make his passive deal magic damage again.
It's synergy with 
is ridiculous... You can just hit a Q, wait a few secs for it to proc then grab and go all in.
He is right now what Olaf was way back. Might seem weak on normals, but on competitive where people can micromanage him and his mechanics he is a FREAKING MONSTER. At least making his passive magic damage again it will tone down some of his synergy and make his power spike come a bit later.
Rob X1 votesMaybe instead of magic, just make the amount of bleed per stack really small and change it to true damage (not physical), like Twitch stacks. Just a thought.
Bimbo Gaggins1 votesWhat was the Q multi-hit bug? I don't see that change documented on the 5.16 or 5.17 patch notes.
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What was the Q multi-hit bug? I don't see that change documented on the 5.16 or 5.17 patch notes.
Somewhat rarely. Darius Q would go off a second time almost immediately after he used it.
He basically got to double dip in his rewards whenever this happens, double the Q damage, double the heal, 2 bleed stacks, etc.
WhisperShadow1 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAG6Wr5cKO8
I hope that this is proof enough. Oh and on Champion.gg you can see how balanced your Juggernauts are :) No one plays them. Like before? No! No one plays them because they are banned in almost every game :) :)
L33K Senpai1 votesThose guys sucked... like ass. This is just sad to watch. The enemy team sucked.
WhisperShadow1 votesUnfortunatly your argument is not valid for the Pentas at worlds :D
lolipopevelynn2 votesdarius is fine, his only problem is the heal he gets. keep it the same for hitting single targets but reduce it a bit for multiple targets. his Q is what allows him to 1v3 right now.
whatever you do dont nerf his damage, nerf his healing.
killAsol1 votesdarius is fine, his only problem is the heal he gets. keep it the same for hitting single targets but reduce it a bit for multiple targets. his Q is what allows him to 1v3 right now.
whatever you do dont nerf his damage, nerf his healing.
I completely agree I don't care about his damage that's fine the problem comes when all the damage that has been done to him comes right back when he heals of q that gives him so Much sustain while also being a little tanky already
DogshítPlayer1 voteshow about u leave darius alone because imo hes balanced but that garen that does true daamge and roam the map picking up kills... scares me
NeutralPanda11 votesDarius along with Skarner and occasionally Garen have reached my ban list since I honestly just don't want to have to deal with any of those champions...ever. I've seen people play each of them in the least optimal way possible and they still get kills/win fights. This doesn't seem very balanced in any way.
Only Play Darius1 votesThey never should have given him sustain. He is much harder to gank now, which is important seeing as he crushes most top laners.
And he's one of my favorite champions before you call me biased.
wusbrackinbruh1 votesDarius is too strong right now. Sure he's "kiteable" but it doesn't matter when a 5 and 1 Darius at 12 minutes into the game teleports bot and face rolls my support and I. I've yet to play a game in which the side with Darius lost.
