What is a Poppy?

Stacona·Aug 31, 2014·1 votes·1,301 views

I would really like a Riot post on this, but it is whatever- anyways.

Poppy has been a champion created, and literally forgotten about since that day to forever collect dust, not even Riot knows about her existence. She is in a really bad spot right now, like really bad, in like every aspect you can think of. You might see her played like one time in fun game modes, but that is about it, then she goes back to be that dust collector. I would really like it if there was some kind of feedback at all of a majour gameplay rework, visual rework, lore rework, character rework, etc, etc, of the Poppy just to show that this once some other creature to Runeterra then somewhere down the line turned into just being a yordle is being worked on or something to make her a champion and not a forgotten dust collector.

So again; What is a Poppy?

~ Stacona

18 Comments

FleuretAug 31, 20142 votes

What is Poppy? An niche Anti-Hyper carry witha horrible early, great late game.

StaconaAug 31, 20141 votes

Rhetorical question

Linna ExcelAug 31, 20142 votes

After seeing them destroy Soraka, I'd rather they never rework another champ again aside from numbers tweaks.

StaconaAug 31, 20141 votes

Soraka is going to be a very strong support after her rework

MrBuffingtonAug 31, 20141 votes

A poppy is a type of flowering plant, it's seeds are typically used as food, or can be used to derive potent analgesic agents used in medicine, or for recreational drug use. The substance has been known to be highly addictive, with many modern medical facilities opting for synthetic substitutes instead.

In all seriousness, I'm sure Poppy changes are on the way

AliceInMadnessAug 31, 20141 votes

Actually I think she is just a very underrated champion. There is a ton of champions that are actually ridiculous but are not befitting the meta standards so they are never really popular. Swain is a good example, his laning and teamfighting is just stupid with sustain to top it off, but he has no waweclear and poor roaming potential so he is always a hiden gem(even since his release). Urgot, who is kind of the epitome of underplayed, is one of the biggest top lane bullies and has so many viable builds. Its just that he is fugly and has undead manboobs so he is never picked(although his ult ddoes suck early, ill give that).

Poppy fitS in that category too i think. If she isn't facing a bully she is actually OK top and has a ridiculous late game.

Also, calling it now: One day poppy/fiora/yasuo with janna/karma/sona or other protective poker and peeler will just stomp over the current bot lanes.

ALL HAIL POOPY, THE UNKILLABLE FURBALL WITH A HAMMER Poppy

StaconaSep 1, 20141 votes

Dude it has been like 5 years since Poppy's release, that ideal poppy meta is never coming- its time for a rework for a champion that is never played and A LOT of players, i mean A LOT A LOT of players do not even know that poppy even exists, Riot needs to do something to the champion to make her just known i do think champions like Swain and Poppy are overpowered- Urgot is not a good top lane pick because i can think of too many champions that beat him top lane, even the weakest of them like mundo and maokai who are known to get bullied around will beat urgot top- if urgot gets played it will be bottom lane

Kill lane bottom lanes are entirely cheese strats and aren't actually viable- cheese is very toxic to the game and is also something that only works one time hence it being cheese

AliceInMadnessSep 1, 20141 votes

You can't possibly think that a champion needs to be reworked because they are not popular. If they need to make her known(which they dont have to, not being popular by itself is not really a problem in any way), they just have to put her on rotations, give her a skin or visual updates. A champion needs to be reworked only if they are mechanically flawed which is not the problem with Poppy, her problem is the curve to get her going. But thats not enough for a rework.

If you think Urgot is outclassed by to many champion than please take the effort to name a few and how they beat him. Urgot has actually very impressive damage early on and falls of late solely because he is and ad caster/bruiser instead of a traditional adc and doesn't auto enough to justivfy crits in his build.

Kill lane is not a cheese strat, draven/leona is a kill lane, thresh/graves is too, both perfectly viable and arent cheese comps. And cheese isn't actually toxic, because if you are smart enough to avoid it you get the lead. Its high rish high reward.

Cheese is, for example, the top laner with a good lvl 1 hiding in the brish with the bot duo to kill a squishy dthat doesn't know better and teleports back up top. If they succeed they give a lead to both lanes, if not the top laner has burned a summoner and some exp and fell behind.

StaconaSep 1, 20141 votes

The champion is straight up not played, and barely played at times she is played- There are many issues to Poppy to both why she doesn't get played- she thematically does not have a proper theme right now, this has been around for awhile- she has nothing interesting about her- and two abilities need to be fixed because of how overpowered they are which are her passive and ultimate- Also is Poppy an AD auto attacker, mage bruiser, assassin, initiator, peeler, tank? What does Poppy do exactly that is unique? Poppy has absolutely no unique aspects about her, and she does not currently have a place in league, never had a place in league ever, and never will have a place in league. Poppy is a forgotten champion, the main reason I wanted to bring this post up was to remind Riot that there is a champion named Poppy that it seems like they forgot about.

AliceInMadnessSep 1, 20143 votes

She has a theme, the ultimate late game carry. If you look at the (mainly melee) carries in Dota, you see thet they all have theit nieches and themes, but all are moderately tanky at least, do tons of damage that can be of all sorts of utility in one champ and do many other things.

Facelessvoid is a high dps high cc high sirvivability carry initiator,for example. Why shouldnt league have that? She does have interesting stuff about her,but that is a matter of taste i guess.

She has no unique aspects? There is no similar ultimate in the game like hers, nobody has her e, the ramp up on her w was translated into later champs(like ori),and her passive has no similar survivability mechanic. So thats not true.

Your main complain on her "ununiqueness" is that she fits a lot of roles at a time, id say its the oposite. What is the difference between Yasuo and Riven? Essentially none. Braum and thresh? Braum has a mustache and his kit is ripped from Skarner, Karma, Lee sin, Yasuo and Nami in that order.

She does have problems, but not about purpose or place, but ramp up time. She is not OP in the same way Nasus and Veigar are not- they take so long to ramp up all they do is jstified if they get to that point.

StaconaSep 2, 20141 votes

Teemo, the Swift Scout --- Anivia, the Cryophoenix --- these are themes teemo will move fast and is meant to scout the way with his shrooms, Anivia is a ice mage phoenix... these are themes and their kits reflect it...

Nasus and Veigar i do not like their current stats of farming for damage, i wish their infinite potential came from kills and assists, large minion and large monster executes can add to the increase damage-- this is to make them pvp and team focused instead of pve which you can play an mmo for that- nasus and veigar will have better gameplay if people arent focused with farming last hits with them and do not feel the need to try to deny them, support veigar is one of my mains, and if i would play nasus ap tank nasus is a lot better cause you dont need to focus or care about last hits to be effective

anyways, off topicness aside, i want to see poppy to gain a place in league instead of being forever that champion that no one even knows exists and sits in the forgotten dark corner to collect dust until URF comes out again

AliceInMadnessSep 2, 20141 votes

I don't think you have a clear idea what themes are. Like, what you said about Anivia boils down to her being different from other ice mages in the league is that she is a phoenix, which means her theme is decided by her model instead of her kit which has only one ability that resembles it. Lissandra could get her passive and model and she would have the SAME identity Anivia has. And how can Teemo "scout" with his shrooms.... especially without dying later in the game. Thats a support's or tank's job IMO.

I don't stray off-topic so I'll skip the middle part.

I seriously dont understand why being inpopular is such a bad thing. How many people know about Galio? I've seen 3 Galio's in my entire gaming history of LoL. He is still with a place and purpose even tho barely anybody plays him. Having low pick rates does not justify major changes on by them selves, even not a model update. Low pickrates are usually a consequence of unviability, but as you said, Poppy is overpowered.

StaconaSep 3, 20141 votes

The Cryophoenix is her theme, which means ice phoenix

Galio is viable- just not played- Poppy is neither and has never been viable and is literally non-existent, people know about Galio

AliceInMadnessSep 3, 20141 votes

But WHAT does cryophoenix mean in terms of gameplay? Could i give Anivia Brand's kit and would she still fit the theme of ice phoenix? I dont think so.

On what basis do you claim Galio is viable but unplayed but Poppy is unviable and unplayed? They know about Galio as much as about Poppy. Prove me otherwise.

JayStarSep 1, 20141 votes

I play poppy all the time a good top laner and a ok jungler

EawafOct 7, 20141 votes

This is a joke. Poppy's Ultimate and passive are her theme. Her passive and R are some of the most unique skills in the game. And that is a good thing. I'm tired of rito releasing champions that essentially do the same thing, and depending on which patch one or the other does it 'slightly' better. Differentiate between champions don't make them all the same ; /

rtbf49815129Oct 29, 20141 votes

Um there are champs who are played less and one of them has poppy in his lore, are very favorite gargoyle who matches perfectly with amumu and MF... Galio!!!

HellhammerJan 11, 2015

she isn't that bad, just an crazy hard early game that has the possibility of her becoming one of the strongest champs late game. its the greatest thing ever later on you basicly can decide who dies. its a wonderful trait. tho its rough to pull off 100%.