Fiddlesticks is cancer

Cloud273··2 votes·3,834 views

And so is every other champ with fear in this game. But what I really don't understand is why he's allowed to have a free flash whenever his ult is up. With the exception of talon, almost every other champ has to burn flash if they want to jump over terrain like he's able to.

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Penns3 votes

Im happy he isnt "meta" tbh.. His cc (which can make you useless for 3.5s total) has 0 actual counterplay and ever since his W cd got reduced to 3 seconds its like... what do you do? Even if you interrupt his drain its gonna be back up in like 1-2s lol feelsbadman

MagicFlyingLlama3 votes

He does not have a free flash. His ult has a several second channel time, making it completely useless unless he is using it from stealth. Maybe if you used wards... How is a fear any different from a point-and-click stun?

He is annoying, but has very clear and obvious counterplay. Do not cluster for his E, stay away from other targets and you remove almost all his damage output, and do not hug unwarded brush.

Cloud2731 votes

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He does not have a free flash. His ult has a several second channel time, making it completely useless unless he is using it from stealth. Maybe if you used wards...

How is a fear any different from a point-and-click stun?

Explain how he's able to get over walls if he doesn't have a free flash. And how many other point and click cc abilities have the range that Fiddle's fear has? I can't think of a single point and click cc with that much range.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

LMAO

fiddle is counter by any form of displacement

try it

janna shuts him down so hard

Cloud2732 votes

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LMAO

fiddle is counter by any form of displacement

try it

janna shuts him down so hard

So the only way to counter cancer is to have something even more cancerous? Yea that totally makes him healthy. And he's still going to point and click fear you, because it has like a 1,000,000 range.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

any CHAMP WITH DISPLACEMENT....

he is squishy and blue buff reliant

he sucks in the new jungle ... it really hurts him and he hasnt been meta in seasons

instead of crying about a champ learn how to beat them

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

downvote me all you want but fiddle is one of the worst champs right now and his best role is jungle and he sucks at it...

http://champion.gg/champion/FiddleSticks

47.51% win rate jungle for 37th out of 51 "junglers"

if anything he needs help

Cloud2731 votes

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downvote me all you want but fiddle is one of the worst champs right now and his best role is jungle and he sucks at it...

http://champion.gg/champion/FiddleSticks

47.51% win rate jungle for 37th out of 51 "junglers"

if anything he needs help

OP.gg shows he has 53% win rate in diamond. Yea he REALLY needs help lol.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

champion.gg takes plat+ ranks across all servers

Cloud2731 votes

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champion.gg takes plat+ ranks across all servers

Your point? Oh wow he's doing bad in plat. In diamond+ he has a MINIMUM of 53% win rate. He's doing even better in master and challenger.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

PROVE IT... you claim it shows that but it dont...

its 52.62% with 897 games played and a kda of 2.44:1 in diamond over the last MONTH for a pick rate of 2.20% over the last month

Cloud2731 votes

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PROVE IT... you claim it shows that but it dont...

Win rates for diamond. 53% win rate. Enough said.

http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

ITS NOT 53%

quit making up stats

Cloud2731 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bT2JZcAh,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-13T01:50:21.209+0000)

ITS NOT 53%

quit making up stats

Actually it is. If you look at data from the past month that's exactly what it is rounded to the nearest whole number.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

you are rounding #s im not... im stating exactly what it is... fiddle isnt an issue he isnt hardly played or picked... therefore those who play him ... usually are mains... http://champion.gg/champion/FiddleSticks

if you look at those who have +125 rank games on him he has a 59.46% win rate... meaning FIDDLE MAINS WIN ON HIM ...

hell any players that main a champ has a higher win % then those who dont...

Cloud2731 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bT2JZcAh,comment-id=0000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-13T01:55:34.811+0000)

you are rounding #s im not... im stating exactly what it is... fiddle isnt an issue he isnt hardly played or picked... therefore those who play him ... usually are mains... http://champion.gg/champion/FiddleSticks

if you look at those who have +125 rank games on him he has a 59.46% win rate... meaning FIDDLE MAINS WIN ON HIM ...

hell any players that main a champ has a higher win % then those who dont...

What's your point? You still haven't stated how his fear has counterplay, or why he's allowed to flash over walls every time his ult is up. And what's wrong with whole numbers?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

his fear is just like any other taunt...

alot of champs have them

mercs and swiftness mastery reduces the effect of CC (including FEAR ) and oh.. mercs have MR TOOO

Cloud2731 votes

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his fear is just like any other taunt...

alot of champs have them

mercs and swiftness mastery reduces the effect of CC (including FEAR ) and oh.. mercs have MR TOOO

No it's not. Taunts don't have the range that his fear has. The champions with taunts put themselves at a huge risk whenever they try to taunt you. Fiddlesticks can just hide in the backline while he fears you. It's stupid and has no counterplay.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

it is a form of CC just like all CC it can be reduced by mercs and the swiftness mastery

AND HIS FEAR DOES NO DAMAGE TO YOU WHAT SO EVER

Cloud2731 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bT2JZcAh,comment-id=00000001000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-13T02:10:43.859+0000)

it is a form of CC just like all CC it can be reduced by mercs and the swiftness mastery

As stated by Penns, the fear lasts 3.5 seconds. How many other kinds of point and click cc last that long? And how many other types of point and click cc have as much range as his fear?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

we are talking 3.5 seconds at max rank...

which according to game stats http://champion.gg/champion/FiddleSticks is the ability which is typically max last....

so sure at lvl 18 his fear is 3.5seconds

while morgana's Q is 3 seconds and does damage and locks you in place

Cloud2731 votes

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we are talking 3.5 seconds at max rank...

which according to game stats http://champion.gg/champion/FiddleSticks is the ability which is typically max last....

so sure at lvl 18 his fear is 3.5seconds

while morgana's Q is 3 seconds and does damage and locks you in place

Even at max rank that's still way too long. I don't care what kind of cc it is. NONE of them should last that long.

Jmman1 votes

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Even at max rank that's still way too long. I don't care what kind of cc it is. NONE of them should last that long.

Where is the long fear at. My lvl one fear is 1.25 and max rank is 2.25 and it runs them AWAY from you. Plus why are you dying to fiddle with that kayle immune shield?

Epic QQ fiddle is too op event though your main has a shield to save anyone from all damage....

I would post more of my rant but since you don't know what his spells do it wouldn't matter.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

http://na.op.gg/champion/fiddlesticks/statistics/jungle

has him for a 46.78% win rate

try again

Boompenguins2 votes
  1. Wait a sec free flash? Based on your logic what about Aatrox Ahri Bard Camille Corki Ekko Elise Ezreal Fiora Fizz GnarGragas Graves Hecarim JarvanIV Jax Kalista ultKassadin Katarina Khazix Leblanc LeeSin Lissandra Lucian Malphite Nidalee Riven Shaco Shen TahmKench Taliyah Tristana Tryndamere TwistedFate Vi Yasuo if you time the e correctly Zac Zed Ziggs

And these arent even all of them, rengar can jump to enemies, amu can go through to enemies, etc.

Also what about summoner 12. Isnt that basically just another flash?

Cloud2731 votes

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  1. Wait a sec free flash? Based on your logic what about Aatrox Ahri Bard Camille Corki Ekko Elise Ezreal Fiora Fizz GnarGragas Graves Hecarim JarvanIV Jax Kalista ultKassadin Katarina Khazix Leblanc LeeSin Lissandra Lucian Malphite Nidalee Riven Shaco Shen TahmKench Taliyah Tristana Tryndamere TwistedFate Vi Yasuo if you time the e correctly Zac Zed Ziggs

And these arent even all of them, rengar can jump to enemies, amu can go through to enemies, etc.

Also what about summoner 12. Isnt that basically just another flash?

Most of those champs don't burst you while they "flash". Fiddlesticks can flash and AOE burst everyone at the same time. It's dumb.

Boompenguins1 votes

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Most of those champs don't burst you while they "flash". Fiddlesticks can flash and AOE burst everyone at the same time. It's dumb.

Ahri can burst, Corki can burst, Ekko can burst, elise can def burst, ezreal can kinda burst, fizz- yeah we dont want to talk about this kid, gragas bursts af going full ap, graves bursts, hec bursts squishys, j4 can burst, jax can burst, kassa burst, kat burst, kha burst, lb burst, lee can 1v1 almost everyone, lissandra can burst, malph can burst if ap, nid can burst, riven can, shaco can, vi can, yasuo can, zed can, and ziggs can.

Briañ1 votes

Have u tryied beeing g00d?

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