armor is still worthless.

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You mean in this game, where you were 4/13, and they had a fed Twitch and a fed Jhin? Where you died at three minutes in to a fucking Twitch jg and a Nasus?

Yeah. This isn't "Armor is worthless xd", this is there being two fed ADCs, one of which is a fucking hypercarry that should never have done well since he's a fucking Twitch jg against a Nocturne but you still fed him anyways.

Congrats? You found a game where I played a tank and didn’t do well? You want a cookie? And no. This wasn’t me into an all ad team comp. :/ you people love picking out shit that has nothing to do with the post to make people seem like they are mad about one game.

FYI. Posted this before that game happened.

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You mean in this game, where you were 4/13, and they had a fed Twitch and a fed Jhin? Where you died at three minutes in to a fucking Twitch jg and a Nasus?

Yeah. This isn't "Armor is worthless xd", this is there being two fed ADCs, one of which is a fucking hypercarry that should never have done well since he's a fucking Twitch jg against a Nocturne but you still fed him anyways.

'"armor is useless i cant go 0-10 in lane and then buy 1 armor item and be unkillable to fed hyper carries, NERF DAMAGE"

Your average boards post right here.

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Meanwhile you can build a singular cloth armor to make any AD assassin disconnect from the game

Except Lul muh lethality and %pen

Meanwhile I go cloth armor plus double armor runes plus bone plating and Zed still oneshots me with a Dirk if he hits 2 or 3 Qs xd

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When armor actually becomes worthless you can comeback and speak

Armor is reduced by 24% by default.

When black cleaver doesn’t exist anymore you’ll have an opinion here.

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Ok i'll keep building armor and swimming in freelo and you can struggle. Sounds good :)

Good joke.

I primarily play tanks and juggernauts. Armor is just fine if you're actually building a decent amount and you aren't against a 12/5 hypercarry.

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Maybe you should learn what is. Don't build other armor items. build this one.

Vs assassins build

Smh. Frozen heart blows into assassins. You’re better off with something that gives hp and armor. Not just armor the as slow means almost nothing to them.

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When Armor lowers damage by 75% but Crit (with IE) raises damage by 225% AND LifeSteal by the same amount then Ya Armor is worthless

It’s not even just that at this point. Even when infinity edge had 250% crit damage and thornmail didn’t give grevious wounds, tanks were still in a healthy spot.

But now with everything having true damage, %hp damage, %max hp damage, %missing hp damage, flat pen, %pen, %shred, or some ungodly mixture of them, tanks just can’t do anything.

Fiora has the chance to do up to 118% max hp true damage. I’m sorry. But I don’t care how much ad you have, I don’t care that you had to invest 5 item slots to do that. That is 118% of non negatable damage that is not balanced in the slightest. It also doesn’t help that she can proc that in under 3 seconds.

Vayne atleast takes a few seconds. :/

Raises it by 125%.

And even then, there's still a net benefit in favor of armor. It's 125% of that 25%, which is only 60%. And that's overall bad math - the damage would still be reduced by 75%.

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When Armor lowers damage by 75% but Crit (with IE) raises damage by 225% AND LifeSteal by the same amount then Ya Armor is worthless

IE doesn't raise damage by 225%. It's only 100% increase (double) which is completely negated by 100 armor which many champions get without spending a single gold on Armor, even though Zhonyas or GA and Tabis exist so they'll have that too.

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I mean, to be fair, that Jhin did buy a LDR, which gives him 35% Armor Penetration, and Twitch did have 4% max health damage per auto + 8% current health damage per auto.

Tanks are inherently supposed to be countered by ADCs.

There is a very very big difference between being countered by a 3000 gold item and rune combo. And being made entirely irrelevant by 8 different items.