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These Mordekaiser changes are horrible.

Big Lincoln··4 votes·1,051 views

Lowering his base damages, ratios, and both in the case of Q, while lowering the total benefit he's getting from his ult bonuses

Base HP Regen per second reduced to 0.6748 from 1.6748

Mace of Spades (Q) Damage reduced to 80/105/130/155/180 (.3 AP) from 80/110/140/170/200 (.4 AP) Isolated damage lowered to 132/165/198.0000/231/264 (.5 AP) from 132/181.5/231/280.5/330 (.66 AP) Cooldown reduced to 7/6/5/4/3 from 8/7/6/5/4 HP Cost reduced to 12/16/20/24/28 from 25/32/39/46/53 Mordekaiser gain (4% of his maximum health) temporary shield per target hit. (Double against isolated target)

Creeping Death (W) Shield Damage AP Ratio reduced to .15 AP from .2 AP Health cost reduced to 18/22/26/30/34 from 26/32/38/44/50 New Effect - "If cast on an ally, Mordekaiser also gains the effect of Creeping Death. Mordekaiser and his ally will gain 60/60/60/60/60 bonus Movement Speed towards each other." New Effect - "Mordekaiser gain (1% of his maximum health) temporary shield per target hit.

Siphon of Destruction (E)
AP ratio reduced to .5 from .6 Health cost lowered to 20/24/28/32/36 from 24/36/48/60/72 Mordekaiser gain (4% of his maximum health) temporary shield per target hit

Children of the Grave (R) Mordekaiser now gains 30% of target's Ability power and 25% of target's bonus Health FROM 20% of their AP and AD. Ghost gains 25/50/100 bonus AD and 15% of Mordekaiser's Maximum health Mordekaiser gain (2% of his maximum health) temporary shield per second.

I'd like to know how exactly this compensates him when he lost his damage.

13 Comments

SwordGrunt4 votes

I literally have no idea how this could possibly go well

So now, when you manage to walk up to the enemy team (...already a bad thing) without being chain CC'd to death, you will simply stay alive and hope that they focus you for no reason since you do no damage anymore

He has no CC

He has no mobility

He barely has any utility (bonus armor/MR; his ghost is not really utility, it's damage)

The only thing Mordekaiser has is damage

If you take it away, there's nothing left

Looks like I'll just spam Mordekaiser while I still can, to enjoy the last few games with my favorite champion of all time

InvalidGuest3 votes

He is going to deal pretty much no damage lategame now lol

The scalings on every ability were lowered beside the Ult, even the Shield which hardly does any damage to begin with, not to mention the base damage on his Q was lowered.

stuartk113 votes

So, Riot's idea for compensation of losing burst was to... reduce his damage. I'm not seeing anything here that actually helps him, mostly just damage reduction and health cost reductions to compensate for less damage. Is this intended to nerf an already sub-par champion? I don't understand the purpose of these changes.

SmokinSickStyle3 votes

It seems that Riot got either scared by "compensation" buffs that they are trying something new or because they love Ahri more than Veigar and Morde.

Outside resource costs buffs (Mana for Veigar and HP for morde) and possibly Veigar Q being a skillshot, they are overall nerfs in my eyes.

XxxLumberJackxxX2 votes

I'd like to know why W doesn't give him a *unconditional mvspeed buff

Done251 votes

The Rioter said the two shields acts akin to magnets, pulling the champions together.

Big Lincoln3 votes

I'd like to know why they thought a .2 AP ratio was too powerful on a move that requires you to idle in melee range to do damage

or why .4 AP is too strong for a melee-range onhit effect that offers no utility whatsoever

Malicious Metal2 votes

Why are they even nerving his damage? If they want him to become an Ap-bruiser they could at least give him some consistent damage and not nerf his damage to negative values. Garages for example has two 270+0.7 ap skills plus a 14% max hp shred as well as a 400+0.7 ult. These numbers are similar to Morde's current kit but what does Gragas have that Morde lacks?.... C f*cking C and Mobility. His decent damage coupled with great survivability and CC/mobility make Gragas a great example of an Ap-Bruiser. Riot should try to make Morde more like the fat man instead of completely destroying him. Gosh...

Sirsir1 votes

Yeah they want him to be more of a bruiser then a burster. With still no CC or mobility (new W doesn't count)

His compensation is a generally stronger shield cuz it scales with health. Rylias will be core on him probably.

XxxLumberJackxxX3 votes

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His compensation is a generally stronger shield cuz it scales with health. Rylias will be core on him probably.

it allready was

AHeroNamedHawke1 votes

Probably because he's gaining 4% max hp as a shield per target hit on both Q and E, as well as 1% per target hit every second on W

Not to mention his shield no longer decays in combat

You build way tankier and stay in a fight far longer, instead of being a garbage burst mage that carries 1/20 bronze games because QSS is disabled in that tier

Big Lincoln3 votes

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Probably because he's gaining 4% max hp as a shield per target hit on both Q and E, as well as 1% per target hit every second on W

Not to mention his shield no longer decays in combat

You build way tankier and stay in a fight far longer, instead of being a garbage burst mage that carries 1/20 bronze games because QSS is disabled in that tier

But the shield changes do nothing for him other than make him a meat-shield. He has never had CC to supplement his tankiness and now he's got lowered damage on top of that. He's got no initiation, no disengage, and gaining a % of his health for shields is such an arbitrary and confusing change I can't wrap my head around it.

Deuce33121 votes

Dear Riot,

I want to comment on your recent, gigantic, blunder.

The changes you have made to Mordekaiser are an abomination. I do not understand why you find it necessary to destroy champions that some people have been playing with for years. If you want to make a different style champ, THEN MAKE A NEW ONE!!!!!!!, DO NOT TAKE ONE THAT IS EXISTING AND COMPLETELY BASTARDIZE HIM.

Mordekaiser is not even a shadow of his former self, and may as well be removed from the game in my opinion, and I believe that every Morde, main, user will agree.

Please do a reset and lets forget this huge lapse in judgement ever happened. I have sat by and watched Riot make some horrible decisions when it comes to gameplay and experience, and remained silent. Now this is my tipping point and can not be quiet anymore, I will at least voice my frustration this time, and hope you will listen...even though I know you will not because you could really careless about the average users comments.

Peace

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