Who do you feel needs a VGU next after Urgot and Eve?

Forhonor321··4 votes·898 views

Most likely Riot is already planning on who they're going to start working on next after these two, along with their new champions, but with the Roadmap post almost a week ago with VGU's soon getting more attention in the future and the upcoming Urgot update, I'm now starting to wonder which champion Riot will decided to update next.

And let's be honest, there are a bunch of champs that probably need gameplay or full VGU: Aatrox Chogath DrMundo Jax Irelia Kayle Malphite Malzahar Mordekaiser Morgana Pantheon Skarner Swain Tryndamere Volibear XinZhao

What champion do you feel needs to be worked on after Eve and the mighty Urgod?

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KoKoboto5 votes

Honestly fuck any new champions Riot is trying to make. Can we just get the base structure done first? Invest a bunch of stuff into dealing with the shitty early game meta and put resources into fixing and getting the potential out of all the older champions. Than let's make some new stuff. It's been said a bunch of places on the board that people have been preferring champion updates over new champion releases.

To answer your question...

Biased:Mordekaiser Quinn Chogath or Pantheon

Really tho: It's hard to say which champions need priority...

Variks the Loyal1 votes

Different teams work on new champions and live balance.

KoKoboto1 votes

I know that. Take everyone from the new champion team and put em into "make the game great again teams". We don't need new content we need to fix the old stuff.

Variks the Loyal1 votes

It doesn't really work that way. If I need someone to fix my cabinet, it doesn't matter if I hire ten carpenters, only two are gonna be able to work on that cabinet at a time.

Then there's the concern of conflicting ideas and wishes causing the process to drag out. You know the saying; "Too many cooks spoil the broth." Putting more people than needed on a team can only make the process take longer and become more arduous.

No matter how many carpenters I hire, two people can't use a hammer at the same time.

KoKoboto1 votes

I also can't get one slave to build the great wall of china or egypt pyramind sutff or have one mind behind how government is run. Only having one or two people working to update champions inevitably means it takes more time to get it done because less minds are able to focus on specific parts of the champion.

No matter how many slaves I have, I need more than myself to whip them all.

Variks the Loyal1 votes

Well, there's more than one or two people. Realistically, one or two people is not enough. Entire teams are dedicated to this stuff.

I'm just saying, I think Riot is allocating their resources efficiently and appropriately. The teams responsible are, well, responsible, and it's not bettered by just throwing more hands at it.

KoKoboto1 votes

Every single class update is a good example of how they don't use their resources effectively. Rito currently works with 2 people working on a new champion, head designer and assistant designer or something, they have 3 pods or whatever and each pod makes 2 champions a year. Which is okay but you know what it is not okay.

The class updates have used similar methodology whatever and it has not worked out. There's always something that gets fkted over: Juggernauts: everyone except Darius Marksmen: Graves, Caitlyn, Quinn cancer Mage: Brand, Malzahar, Zyra Assassins: Lethality meta and now most ADs fall off insanely hard Tanks: All except Mao'Kai and we've got a shitty supportive tank item meta

In comparison the solo updates have been a lot better with only few hiccups, Poppy on release and Galio right now. When they got more people just focused on one thing they do a lot better.

I think it's very clear that they need more people to look at single things in order to make the stuff right. Have more eyes everywhere to make sure they don't screw over stuff.

NinjaGuy693 votes

What champion do you feel needs to be worked on after Eve and the mighty Urgod?

After Urgod (peace be upon him), I think it needs to be one of the following three: Nunu Mordekaiser Singed

Enderspider2 votes

definitely Malphite I already have an idea for a new kit/new visuals for him

CaptainSeto2 votes

Cho'gath. Even my friend, who is a Cho Main agrees that he needs a rework. His kit, while fine for blind, is too easily countered when everyone on the enemy team sees him in draft. His Q is telegraphed so much that even Helen Keller could dodge it, his reworked W backfired, and his E just... doesn't help. The only thing in his kit that shouldn't be reworked, and should always stay, is his Ult. A model and visual update would be great, his lore doesn't to be remade though. Keeping him as a Tank is a must, but making sure that he's not turned into a jungler would be nice, seeing how we need a support voidborn more than another jungle one. Making it so that he has better skills in his kit so that he isn't easy to counter pick, but leaving it so that he can be counter played would be key. Cho'gath needs to be a threat, he needs to be the terror of the void. A 1v1 should never be decided by dodge his Q. It should be hard fought on both sides, and honestly, in my opinion, cho should have the upper hand in a 1v1 against most top laners unless the enemy is ready for that fight.

To sum it all up, he should be made into a tank that can bully his lane, allowing him to actually be threat throughout. Give him ample ability to stay in lane and if the enemy laner doesn't actually try to learn and take him down, I'm fine with him getting huge. Like, his theme, his lore, his looks, and his gameplay should all reflect that he's a threat. He's not an easy take down.

Alex h87212 votes

Imo Jax or XinZhao, very much stat-check champs that don't have a great deal of skill expression but are more so Jump in> if jax/xin has enough items they kill, if not they die. 3rd spot would go to Skarner mainly because I almost never see him in any games and thats usually a sign a champ isn't in a good place.

Sexy Jack Rabbit2 votes

Nunu Seriously he needs an update. I honestly think his concept as a jungler is kind of cool. But he's just so boring. You play him once or twice and it's like "okay the novelty is gone". Cheese can only be good for so long.

Pantheon After him being free all of last week I'm realizing how cancer this guy can be to play against. On top of that if you're not fed he's really not that fun to play.

Tryndamere Need I bring up game health issues? RNG isn't fun. To play with or against.

Inting Pillow2 votes

Amumu Aatrox Chogath DrMundo MasterYi MonkeyKing Nasus KogMaw Pantheon Veigar Tryndamere Malphite

Personal Hatred: Yasuo Kayle Akali

Evêñtfûl Hôrïzôñ1 votes

After Evelynn, Aatrox Mobile Multi-colored Trash Can with a Sword is getting it next.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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After Evelynn, Aatrox Mobile Multi-colored Trash Can with a Sword is getting it next.

Yeah I hate how aatrox looks. I've never understood his face. It looks ridiculous.

Evêñtfûl Hôrïzôñ1 votes

I was mostly talking about his gameplay, but now that I think about it, he kind of does look like a multi-colored trash can. How rude of you, Rito.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

He isn't trash atm... And he won't receive a VGU like eve, but a GU.

Evêñtfûl Hôrïzôñ1 votes

Many, many people disagree with you. And although he's not getting a full VGU, he's still getting a large gameplay update, which means there will still be a wait after Urgot and Evelynn's VGUs.

Telephone Booth1 votes

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I was mostly talking about his gameplay, but now that I think about it, he kind of does look like a multi-colored trash can. How rude of you, Rito.

Haha oh I thought VGU meant like visual graphic update??? Idk I was just guessing really. I'm so ignorant when it comes to technical lingo with video games n stuff.

Evêñtfûl Hôrïzôñ1 votes

VGU means "Visual and Gameplay Update", and although Aatrox isn't getting a visual update, he will be getting a GU (gameplay update) which will delay any future VGUs after Urgot and Evelynn until he (Aatrox) is finished.

Zane Zephyr1 votes

Akali is getting her rework either before or shortly after eve, but according to the update schedule Aatrox is getting a gameplay update after Eve

Eternal7911 votes

Because I think they have a lot of unfulfilled potential: Mordekaiser Singed Nocturne

Because I hate their guts and want their kit to change entirely (though they could be solved with a simple GU): Yasuo Teemo

Forhonor3211 votes

I think Reav3 talked about planning on a mini yasuo rework soon. So be looking foward for that

Eternal7911 votes

YES!!!!!!!!

Variks the Loyal1 votes

Morgana and Kayle would be my first choice.

After them, Irelia Tryndamere Swain Mordekaiser Malphite

nachocheeseeeee1 votes

They mentioned Aatrox is an extremely high priority for an update that will be pretty much a rework. The fan base here kept bitching about Aatrox being gutted, so I guess Riot is finally going to start focusing on him. I know Irelia was also mentioned, but currently she is better off than Aatrox. I'd say I personally would love to see Pantheon. He has a garbage late game and he is supposed to feel like a badass mother fucker who should be one of the strongest duelists. He is the aspect of war, so he should also be great at team fighting. Also, his model is so outdated. His foot is bigger than his body.

VoraciousX1 votes

I personally think after Aatrox, Xin Zhao should. It doesn't feel good getting right clicked to death in 1.5 seconds when he gets a few kills and eventually can just give everyone multiple stab wounds, poking holes in their chest when Xin Zhao is strong, and when he's not strong he's never played. I'd vote him.

Hexs Fortune1 votes

Jax

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