so are stat shards going to get addressed at all?

Critmaster Garen··1 votes·1,607 views

why isnt there a second health option with the first row of choices as an alternative to ad/ap, so we can get some 30 to 180 scaling health back that we used to get off picking resolve?

what about the inspiration path getting nerfed this preseason, because it doesnt increase the values of rune stats anymore?

also, why is resolve 1 literally still a choice of pick demolish, or pick one of the 5 champions who can proc shield bash?

why is overgrowth still unchanged? you gutted the rune beyond redemption for any champion who used to consider it, just to make it available to champions who dont even care about it.

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The Bad Touch2 votes

That's what is really wrong with the new rune system in general. As well as how limited items now are.

With old runes/masteries you could for example make any champion a semi viable jungler just by taking by taking jungle masteries, flat armor, and AS. OR you could make a cheesy full flat ad/arp panth and start stat flask. Or you could build an Atmogs AD Malphite. Bandit was another mastery that was usable on far more champs. Runes let you pick between a strong early game... or a hard scaler. Sorry but scorch vs gathering storm isn't even a debate. Scorch damage is non existent at all point in the game.

I miss things like On hit bruiser fizz... Pheonix AP/AS udyr, FULL MR/Scaling MR page Galio.... ect ect. Now there is only the illusion of choice. Even HotS offers a greater variety of choice now. Rune/Stats/Item builds in league are 100% identical from game to game. Everything has been "balanced" to the point there is only one viable path for every champ outside of a VERY few exclusions.

Remember when Akali could Spell Vamp stack... or do a lichbane build... OR be a viable bruiser? Now EVERY SINGLE AKALI GAME is Electrocute + item 3111 item 3146 item 3157 item 3165 item 3089 Only the last item is optional.... and few games make it to full build.

The Bad Touch1 votes

Exactly 2 champions would honestly get good use out of shield bash. One is Naut.. and isn't even played. If he is he's usually trying to rush down first tower bot.... so demolish. The other is Sion who would always just take demolish.

Font of life is beyond hot garbage and no one ever takes it other than the occasional Braum..... who is likely also taking demolish for plate gold for his AD.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Exactly 2 champions would honestly get good use out of shield bash. One is Naut.. and isn't even played. If he is he's usually trying to rush down first tower bot.... so demolish. The other is Sion who would always just take demolish.

Font of life is beyond hot garbage and no one ever takes it other than the occasional Braum..... who is likely also taking demolish for plate gold for his AD.

this is exactly the problem. i havent even seen rioters aknowledge this as a problem.

the worst part is, i fear theyre just going to go with some dumbass reaction like nerfing demolish, which is going to change shit, when the problem is systematic with the runes in that path in general.

there are just too many runes in the rune system overall that are either worthless or literally impossible to use by the majority of the champions.

the same problem with sorcery.

you have transcendence, or celerity which is now garbage, or absolute focus which is even feasable on like 3 long range poke champions. if anyone opts into sorcery, hes probably going transcendence now.

ROYALR3IGN1 votes

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Exactly 2 champions would honestly get good use out of shield bash. One is Naut.. and isn't even played. If he is he's usually trying to rush down first tower bot.... so demolish. The other is Sion who would always just take demolish.

Font of life is beyond hot garbage and no one ever takes it other than the occasional Braum..... who is likely also taking demolish for plate gold for his AD.

Ivern JarvanIV Malphite Poppy Ornn Shen Skarner TahmKench Urgot Udyr Just to name a few?

The Bad Touch1 votes

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Ivern JarvanIV Malphite Poppy Ornn Shen Skarner TahmKench Urgot Udyr Just to name a few?

Since when do junglers give up waterwalking?

Since when does Kench pop Gray health frequently enough to get any real benefit?

That leaves malphite/poppy/ornn/shen/urgot.

All of which are top laners. Out of those you can really only make an argument for Urgot to take it over demolish as he is the only one with any real tower killing ability. Guess what though? You're only going to proc that tiny bit of damage a few times per lane. Most likely your kills will come from ganks during which you will get exactly one proc. You "Might" get 20 damage out of it on a gank. How is that in any way better than a 400-600+ point chunk off a tower potentially every 45 seconds if you are winning.

Poppy has it even worst. She literally has to throw her shield... pick it up.. and somehow land a melee hit before it wears off. That's not going to happen often enough to give up demolish for.

ANYWAY why does the tank tree even need what ultimately amounts to a purely offensive rune? The resistances granted of just plain insignificant.

Why could it not simply be named "Block" and shield for a small amount after hitting an enemy champion with a melee attack on a shorter CD than Bone plating. Put it in the same row as bone plating and move second wind into the same row as font of life and demolish. Meanwhile buff font of life a tad.

Done251 votes

FoL is for enchanters who want the on hit heal to proc Ardent and Unholy Grail with. That's about it really.

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