Fiddlesticks relaunch Fear concept

PopcornBunni··20 votes·11,195 views

So with Fiddlesticks and Volibear reworks under way, I thought I'd give my lowly thoughts on how the scarecrow's fear should be handled.

Currently it is a point and click hard CC that can be popped from quite a sizable distance -- more than any melee champion's range and even longer than most ranged attacks as well. More than that though, it lasts a very, very long time for a point and click spell.

So, assuming it would still be on his Q, and still be a part of his kit, which, as a scarecrow I'd certainly expect a fear in there, here's my proposal --

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Q: Terrify -- After a [.25 s]* delay, Fiddlesticks reveals a horror to enemies in a cone in front of him, causing them to flee in terror. Enemies close to Fiddlesticks are feared for longer, while those further away are feared for a much shorter duration.

Fear duration (close): [1.5/ 1.75/ 2/ 2.25/ 2.5] s Fear duration (middle):[ 1.1/ 1.2/ 1.3/ 1.4/ 1.5] s Fear duration (far)*: [0.25/ 0.3/ 0.35/ 0.4/ 0.45] s

This is also assuming the rest of the kit would contain his silence and drain; otherwise drain could implemented as right clicking on a feared enemy (likeSwain passive) or as a Q2 with a completely new ability on drain's slot.

*Numbers are not exact values and are just placeholders to illustrate the idea

20 Comments

Xavanic16 votes

let's face it, when the rework comes out, its gonna do a billion different things, get nerfed 12-15 times, and then just be....there

Romans VI XXIII1 votes

Sounds about right.

When you have to rework reworked reworked champions, you would think you would realize you are doing something wrong.

HoldMyPlank1 votes

...Ryze

Romans VI XXIII1 votes

Bingo

Hemulen Magi11 votes

Sounds good. I kind of want Fiddlesticks to have an AOE CC theme in the new kit because I consider him a catcher class (+ hybrid mage).

Nekorus5 votes

Don't worry buddy you'll be noticed next time. Nocturne RITO LEFT ME UNFINISHED JUST PULL THE TRIGGER PLEASEEEEEEE.

BLIGHTBRINGER2 votes

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He will be epic, one day..

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Modl Ryden l4 votes

A conal AoE fear would synergize fantastically with his ulti.

You pop out and BAM SURPRISE! Heart attack for the players AND the champions.

ModAcademy Kayn3 votes

I like the idea of it being AOE, but without any real reference for how long a .25 second delay is, I wouldn't want Melee's to be just more fucked than ranged folk, just for sake of being melee. I'd want it to be at least somewhat fair enough to be able to dodge potentially, but like said, not too familiar with how a .25 second delay feels.

Famous Gay Actor1 votes

I could see his Q being a short range thing (like directly in front of him only, so it can act as a form of self peel in the jungle or in lane.

PopcornBunni1 votes

As noted by the *, the numbers are just rough figures to illustrate the ability itself. It could be anywhere from a 0.1 to a 0.5 second delay. If you want something that can be reacted to, factoring in a ping of 70 ms, the reaction needed time to say, Fiora or Garen W his fear, would be around 400 ms (0.4 s).

Though, you don't always want a game like league to test reactions as much as you want to reward smart predictions. A shorter delay would do just that -- give time to see Fiddle ult in and make a snap prediction if he will fear right away or delay it to play around your counter ability (without the buffering of a point and click ability, his fear would also have an additional delay equal to the ping in questio).

Champion Skin3 votes

I mean melee champions (at least ones with gap closers) likely won't struggle that much with this ability especially if they gap closer puts them behind Fiddlesticks or is free targeting

As cones have quite tinny starting AoE and combined with the delay it might not actually be all that easy hitting melee champions (though they are especially punished if they happen to get hit)

Romans VI XXIII3 votes

Nah it has to have the Yas treatment and start 500 Teemos behind him.

IxtaliKing2 votes

I don't play Fiddlesticks, but I think this is a great idea xD

Rıots Bad Client1 votes

What about an ability like Hex-Tech Flash, and he blinks and doing a little fear(range of fear scales with rank)

I would like to think Fiddlesticks is a Cookie Spooker and comes with surprises.

SeaWeaboo1 votes

All I ask is to remove/heavily change the damn crow. The thing won't stop taking my cs as an adc.

Ginger9761 votes

The only problem with a 3 section solution is how do you differentiate between the three sections so that you can provide feedback to you, and your team, as to which fear you landed? Two section skills are easier because there is typically a clear delineation....Darius Q or Aatrox are good examples.

Sageace1 votes

I expect Fiddlesticks AA to be crows. And the crows are everywhere.

Caw-caw! Caw-caw!

xelaker1 votes

So I can get killed faster than my fear cast time? hmmm

Ickybod Clay1 votes

Can they just please, ...please, please,please..... fix his wind up fucking aa? ...it kills me.... literally lol

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