KLED is a support? RIOT LIED TO US!!!

MuffledGarbage·Aug 28, 2016·2 votes·2,168 views

I've been playing kled support since I was forced to for a few games now. The odd thing is that I did the same job alistar does (displacing the enemy team and setting up kills) but way better. Mounted Q is a mini Thresh hook. W is free damage for engaging enemies to set up kills. E is used to ult someone into the middle of your team.

When unmounted kled barely gets any courage from CS anyway.

Kled usually does average at best in toplane and jungle with sub-par 1v1 skills or ganking potential. Having kled as a support makes him viable and safe in every situation that he normally wouldn't beat in jg or toplane positions.

27 Comments

BeatzBoyFTWAug 28, 20162 votes

Went to ate 5 pills of painkillers after reading this....

MuffledGarbageAug 29, 20161 votes

You should be careful on abusing drugs. Sounds like you may have a drug problem. Most store bought painkillers only require 2-4 tablets maximum.

SherogarthAug 28, 20162 votes

Good for you if you found something u like :D.

I dont get why is this getting downvoted, OP is only sharing something he/she found funny/good to play. Hell, I'm a support main and lately im playing Malphite support just because i found his ult much better game changer than most support abilities. I also played multiple times Volibear support in form of a kill lane. I even played Garen support -> just stand between thier carry and farm, making thier life a living hell and letting my carry to safety farm, when i was low i just went into brushes for some time and reg up with passive.

Dont let your dreams be only dreams and meta bind you to its rules.

MuffledGarbageAug 29, 20162 votes

Imagine a world where people realize that the meta was made by people like you and me who want to try new things. Eventually someone tried GP mid and found "HEY this is pretty viable"

Someone tried full AP malphite mid "Hey This is really viable"

Someone else tried Oriana jungle "Hey this is INSANELY viable"

Not to mention Poppy and Sion support 'HEY THIS IS REALLY-" you get the Idea [slayer-jinx-wink]

BeldairAug 30, 20162 votes

It is good you found a support you are good with..

I've personally done Rumble, Mordekaiser, Renekton, and Sejuani support and would get flak for those. I've even gotten flak for Bard and Poppy support.

AcidTheWarlockAug 30, 20162 votes

But......

Bard is a support wtf

BeldairAug 30, 20162 votes

Because of Bard ult.

RequiemsfireAug 30, 20162 votes

I'm sorry mate but Kled does not do the same job as Alistar.

Mysticman89Aug 30, 20162 votes

I was actually thinking about exploring the idea of kled support recently too after playing against a few (primarily due to the hook aspect), although I'll need to wait for a free week to properly grok his abilities.

Inevitably, actually using thresh or another hook champ will probably better the better support option, but it might not be as bad as something like yi support or something silly like that.

MuffledGarbageAug 30, 20161 votes

You should go for it!!! Don't let your dreams be dreams just DO IT!!! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

I hate my ADCAug 28, 20161 votes

No. I'll just point you to a post I made about Pantheon Support in another thread.

Kled is a poor support choice for many many reasons and should absolutely not be used as a support in ranked.

MuffledGarbageAug 29, 20161 votes

Don't just say that he is. Say WHY he is. otherwise you sound like your spewing crap out of your mouth (figuratively since we're typing)

I hate my ADCAug 30, 20161 votes

I said WHY he is. I pointed you to a post why Pantheon is a bad support. Kled is bad for the same reasons. He's scaling melee with poor support abilities. Supports are starved of gold and Kled needs gold to perform. Otherwise, you'd just be ulting to your death every time. Kled is an all-in champion. Once he committed to a fight, it's either him or them. Without the items to go with that, he's just a free kill.

BeldairAug 30, 20161 votes

Um, hello..Leona, a support, is actually the same way..

She is an all-in support that happens to need some gold to be Tanky or she becomes easy to shred.

Panth would be OK for a support with his stun and the block, just build Tanky.

Kled, build uber tank, use Q to do exactly what Thresh does, E into adc and pound with W before running away or continue pounding and give your adc the lovely kill. But it does come at a cost of less DMG and being super vulnerable when unmounted.

AcidTheWarlockAug 30, 20162 votes

Yeah, but Leona has plenty of CC to lock down the enemy backline and stop them from killing her after she engages, unlike Kled, who just has damage and goes HAM

BeldairAug 30, 20162 votes

Oh I know that.. I am a support main after all..

Just pointing out his all in comment wasn't all correct.

I never will play Kled support since he becomes super vulnerable when unmounted...I'll leave him Top.

I hate my ADCAug 30, 20161 votes

Leona is naturally tanky, has reliable CC, get damage without scaling and thrive without gold. She doesn't need gold to perform, how did you get this idea? Her W gives her the tankiness she needs and her base stats are high for tanking. Her passive also work in conjunction with an ally, which makes her kit perfect for support.

Kled only has the "naturally tanky" part and even that require him to build HP or get a lead because otherwise his mount doesn't have the health to support his all-in style. The moment he get dismounted, he got nothing.

BeldairAug 30, 20162 votes

If you actually read my post, you'd see where I stated a Kled support's weakness.

I hate my ADCAug 30, 20161 votes

Yeah and you also stated Kled support's supposed strength. He doesn't just Q like Thresh, that's a completely false statement, it's not even close to being the same.

Kled snatch your ADC?

Ezreal arcane shit away. Lucian dash away. Draven speed boost away. Caitlyn caliber net away.

For the more immobile ADCs, they can have a support that will just slow, push, stun, etc. Kled to let their ADC get out of range. And even if they don't, they will just turn around and shoot Kled in the face. There are TWO people in the bot lane, if Kled engage, he'll just get dismounted in a matter of seconds. He'll never ever will be able to get his "combo" on anyone.

Thresh hook is instant CC, last for a long time, can be used from farther, doesn't require him to be right up the guy face to be effective and allows him to instantly initiate and start the fight instantly. Not only that but he can allow someone else to initiate with him with his lantern. Thresh is a real support. Do not ever compare Kled to Thresh.

BeldairAug 30, 20162 votes

Thresh hook is easily dodged.

Don't talk to me about support until you get good at support.. I am a support main with mastery of 5 on Braum.

I hate my ADCAug 30, 20161 votes

How easily dodged Thresh hook is depends only on the Thresh.

And I'd watch who you say that to. Maybe look up at op.gg before telling me to get good at support. :/ Or at least look at my summoner profile ingame. I mean... I have 1055 normal wins over you and you aren't even ranked.

BeldairAug 30, 20162 votes

Big woop...rank means nothing scrub.

I hate my ADCAug 30, 20161 votes

Yeah sure...

MuffledGarbageAug 30, 20161 votes

Kled barely needs to melee. Your focusing on the wrong part of the Kled support. Kled doesn't need much gold to perform well just start building item 2303 and after that he's set to build into whatever tanky stats you feel like.

Kled isn't an all-in champion.

Pantheon is an all-in champion because he constantly can just W,Q,E and that's all pantheon needs to do.

A good Kled would never all-in since most of Kled's abilities don't do much damage when chained together. The playstyle of a Kled support would be to poke Q in lane and if the Q hits Kled would try to get the target pulled in then unleash the full combo on the target for the ADC to finish off.

It's not doing an all-in without landing that Q and making sure that ADC is ready OR having R up to E into the enemy and set up a kill for ADC to finish off.

Kled at most needs a small income of gold to be effective since two of his abilities set up for kills easy. E even leads into R to give an easier time setting up a kill.

Pantheon support didn't work because pantheon is a fighter/assassin who needs to get ahead early with kills and CS to survive.

Kled fits in to 6/6 of the points you stated in your Pantheon post.

You seem to have a lack of knowledge of Kled. This isn't your fault necessarily however it seems your not educated enough on what I'm talking about to understand how it would work.

Think of it like Darius support. Q on Darius and E on Darius both help adc get kills and get fed. Even with a lower gold income Darius doesn't fall under the curve in toplane if he's behind.

I could keep naming tanks all day and how a lot of them would work in support. Even Yorick support would work if the Yorick had item 2301 And Built item 3116 second. By midgame Yorick's ghouls would be deathtraps from all the slowing (I'm talking about both upcoming rework Yorick and current Yorick BTW)

I hate my ADCAug 30, 20161 votes

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Kled isn't an all-in champion.

Why do I even bother?

PermabannedGarenAug 30, 20161 votes

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I've been playing kled support since I was forced to for a few games now. The odd thing is that I did the same job alistar does (displacing the enemy team and setting up kills) but way better. Mounted Q is a mini Thresh hook. W is free damage for engaging enemies to set up kills. E is used to ult someone into the middle of your team.

When unmounted kled barely gets any courage from CS anyway.

Kled usually does average at best in toplane and jungle with sub-par 1v1 skills or ganking potential. Having kled as a support makes him viable and safe in every situation that he normally wouldn't beat in jg or toplane positions.

Yeah, he does the same job as an Alistar, only all his displacement skills affect a single champion at a time which makes him much worse at it and he has to build AD to do damage due to the nature of his scalings, and an unmounted Kled is basically completely worthless as a support.

Also, sub-par 1v1 skills? Compared to who, Jax? Lol.

MuffledGarbageAug 30, 20161 votes

I think against like toplaners with better early games like Darius or Illaoi. Even Ekko depending.