Sivir vs Lucian since patch 6.2

blfUvZ8Ybu··1 votes·474 views

Lucian got nerfs.Meanwhile Sivir?

Is she immune from nerfs?

I don't care some salty Adc mains.Reality is this and I'm tired of Sivir.

So Sivir must be out of meta.Sivir is in meta for 5 months.

Buff Tris, Corki, Kalista or nerf this competitive nightmare Sivir.

I'm honest man and I don't like hypocrisy.

16 Comments

Doctor Jarvis3 votes

What's wrong with Sivir, exactly? She's good because she's safe, but she's really not all that strong.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Doctor Jarvis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=at6yr6dM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-29T19:19:05.980+0000)

What's wrong with Sivir, exactly? She's good because she's safe, but she's really not all that strong.

Late game monster, early game enough good, extreme waveclear, spellshield, AOE damage with ricochets and crits.

Did I forget something?

Compare Tris and Sivir.Why should I play Tris?

Sivir's early game is good and she is hypercarry but Tristana's early game is weak.

Doctor Jarvis3 votes

You forgot...wait late game monster? Have you SEEN other adcs? Forget it.

She has 2 abilities that don't do damage, so she's entirely auto attack based. Again, she's safe, but her strength is really easy to counter; your tanks need to peel her and build a Randuin's Omen if she's becoming a problem.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Doctor Jarvis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=at6yr6dM,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-06-29T19:23:13.556+0000)

You forgot...wait late game monster? Have you SEEN other adcs? Forget it.

She has 2 abilities that don't do damage, so she's entirely auto attack based. Again, she's safe, but her strength is really easy to counter; your tanks need to peel her and build a Randuin's Omen if she's becoming a problem.

She has 2 abilites that don't do damage so she is bad?

Because her 2 abilites give incredible utility.All hypercarries auto attack based.She is really easy to counter but I'm tired of seeing.

Tris is weak for months but Sivir is strong for months.Tris is absolutely weak but that undeniable.

If Riot says diversity etc we must see other ADC's.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Doctor Jarvis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=at6yr6dM,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-06-29T19:23:13.556+0000)

You forgot...wait late game monster? Have you SEEN other adcs? Forget it.

She has 2 abilities that don't do damage, so she's entirely auto attack based. Again, she's safe, but her strength is really easy to counter; your tanks need to peel her and build a Randuin's Omen if she's becoming a problem.

Meanwhile they nerfed Lucian with from same reasons.(pick rate and so strong). Lucian had counterplay like Sivir.

http://champion.gg/champion/Sivir

Look Sivir's win rate and power.

Doctor Jarvis1 votes

For the record I wasn't saying she was bad because she only had 1 damage ability and 1 auto attack steroid. I was saying her damage is SO much lower than other adcs. Yeah, they're slacking on Trist, but...you know that link you gave puts her at 10th among adcs right? She gets the least kills, is 12th among damage, kills marginally more minions than others, which is weird because she has SO much wave clear in her kit (though she's still first, she's just not leading by enough).

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Doctor Jarvis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=at6yr6dM,comment-id=00010000000000010000,timestamp=2016-06-29T20:09:17.503+0000)

For the record I wasn't saying she was bad because she only had 1 damage ability and 1 auto attack steroid. I was saying her damage is SO much lower than other adcs. Yeah, they're slacking on Trist, but...you know that link you gave puts her at 10th among adcs right? She gets the least kills, is 12th among damage, kills marginally more minions than others, which is weird because she has SO much wave clear in her kit (though she's still first, she's just not leading by enough).

How low damage? Her damage is higher than Lucian, Varus, Corki, Ezreal (I'm not sure but Ezreal and blue build), Kalista.

Doctor Jarvis1 votes
blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Doctor Jarvis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=at6yr6dM,comment-id=0001000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-29T20:18:02.460+0000)

Um...no it isn't.

That isn't net because Tris's early game is extreme weak and early game damage is very low.

Doctor Jarvis1 votes

I don't understand what you mean. Yes, Riot hasn't been great about adc diversity, but you know Sivir only has an 11% pick rate right? And her damage is definitely lower than...most adcs. In terms of adc diversity...there are 8 champions with >10% pick rate, which is pretty alright, given there are only like 18 adcs.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Doctor Jarvis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=at6yr6dM,comment-id=000100000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-29T21:07:40.811+0000)

I don't understand what you mean. Yes, Riot hasn't been great about adc diversity, but you know Sivir only has an 11% pick rate right? And her damage is definitely lower than...most adcs. In terms of adc diversity...there are 8 champions with >10% pick rate, which is pretty alright, given there are only like 18 adcs.

You're saying only soloq but Sivir has very high play rate at competitive.

Ozag the Mighty1 votes

Shielding a garen ult or a Zed ult is the best way to poor salt and tilt on people, I love her.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ozag the Mighty,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=at6yr6dM,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2016-06-29T20:28:20.090+0000)

Shielding a garen ult or a Zed ult is the best way to poor salt and tilt on people, I love her.

I can love but if I don't see every match.

Ozag the Mighty1 votes

True

RookPusher2 votes

Unless you're trolling, your post is too vague to garner support.

blfUvZ8Ybu2 votes

{quoted}

Unless you're trolling, your post is too vague to garner support.

Bronze 4 Sivir main protects Sivir.You're troll I'm telling the truth.

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