there might be a solution to the state of bot lane that makes everybody happy

Critmaster Garen··3 votes·957 views

increase the stream of xp to the duo lane via support itemization, by having

item 3302 item 3301 item 3098

or even items like item 2049 and its upgrades increase the xp gained from nearby minions for the support and their partner.

this will accomplish two things.

  1. a duo lane thats not noticably behind in levels compared to the jungler and solo lanes, becomes harder to gank and to dive under their turret. this includes adc/support lanes. while this wont entirely remove the pressure on bot lane, it would make these ganks slighty more risky. its much easier to come into bot lane at lvl 6 for a dive on two level 4 - 5 champions, than trying to gank two level 6 champions.

  2. bot lane fighters or apc like Ziggs become more feasable in general, since these level dependent champions arent putting themselves behind when compared to laning solo.

the main reason Mordekaiser became a viable bot laner with his rework was not only due to his sustain, but also due to his w gimmick, which increased the xp gained for him and let hm keep up in levels compared to solo lanes.

the reason why this mechanic was unfair and put him at an advantage compared to the opposing duo, was because it was onesided. if there was a generally higher xp stream in bot lane, the more level dependent champions would be able to better keep up with adc as more gold dependent champions, while not making the difference quite as drastic.

9 Comments

Critmaster Garen1 votes

id just hate if riots reaction the current situation was to buff marksmen and snuff out any diversity thats developing down there, instead of decreasing the snowballing thats happening in general and support more diverse picks at the same time.

RexSaur1 votes

You know thats going to do the OPPOSITE of helping adcs, adcs dont scale with exp as much as they do with items, meanwhile MAGES (the champs that are already doing better bot lane) and bruisers like the exp more.

You just gonna send 2 bruisers (or mages) who both go targons and you gonna get the same pre season 6 shit, no thanks, theres nothing wrong with duo lane exp, junglers are the ones getting too much exp for free.

I dont know why this forum hates adcs so much, let them be viable on their only lane.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

You know completely well that adcs don't stay bot.

You'll find them toplane as well.

So why can't the top laners go bot?

RexSaur1 votes

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You know completely well that adcs don't stay bot.

You'll find them toplane as well.

So why can't the top laners go bot?

What adc goes top in the current meta?

Quinn and graves arent traditional adcs by the way, and even them arent really played top lane anymore.

So you're telling me its fine because i can just play jinx top lane? Are you implying traditional adcs are playable outside of bot lane? Lmao.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

I never said it was fine, I'm just saying to stop being selfish with your lane.

As metas shift, marksmen go into other lanes. But for some reason you don't want anybody bot but marksmen.

Ahristocats1 votes

and then you can buff ADC back to make them as viable as anyone bot

????????????

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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You know thats going to do the OPPOSITE of helping adcs

the goal isnt to help adc.

the goal is to reduce early pressure and snowballing on bot lane while increasing the amount of viable non adc picks there.

reducing pressure on bot lane in itself is a buff to adc, since theyre more likely able to farm to their powerspikes.

so yes, i know.

Quepha1 votes

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the main reason Mordekaiser became a viable bot laner with his rework was not only due to his sustain, but also due to his w gimmick, which increased the xp gained for him and let hm keep up in levels compared to solo lanes.

That was the reason people bothered to try hom there, but the main reason he was actually "viable" in bot lane (read: completely broken) was because he could prime a Q, flash, auto, and completely delete the adc. Once that nonsense was removed he felt like crap in bot lane again.

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